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  • mudgrip92

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    o ok i thought the 4473's were sent in every so often (cant remember exactly how often i was told)or the batf was requesting them every now n then. the guy that told me had a gun shop but out of business now, but i work with him so i have many questions for him monday.
     

    oleheat

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    If all they try to pass are extended background checks, good.

    No, BAD.

    They will NEVER stop there......

    Folks had best get this and get it good: This is NOT a "one and done" issue- and it never will be.
     

    returningliberty

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    You guys are going to flame me, but I would be for this IF:

    1. Any private seller can enter the information of the buyer online (no FFL required).

    2. What type of gun or how many wasn't tracked or even on the online form, you just got a "PROCEED" or "DENY"; no serial numbers or anything, JUST a background check on the buyer.

    3. You could do it across state lines, as long as the buyer is an American citizen it doesn't matter where he lives. It's the buyer's problem if he brings a "banned" gun into his state, not the seller's.

    4. No electronic records were kept. Every entry is scrubbed every 24 hours. There's no FFL so the "keep the records until they turn to dust" rule doesn't apply. I might be convinced to require the seller to keep a record of the proceed document.


    This would make private sales "safer" (make the libs happy) while preserving privacy and the rights of Americans to trade freely. IMO this isn't really a 2nd amendment issue, it's a commerce issue. If they ban the private sale of guns, what's next? Gold? Then what, where does it end?
     

    tim9lives

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    You guys are going to flame me, but I would be for this IF:

    1. Any private seller can enter the information of the buyer online (no FFL required).

    2. What type of gun or how many wasn't tracked or even on the online form, you just got a "PROCEED" or "DENY"; no serial numbers or anything, JUST a background check on the buyer.

    3. You could do it across state lines, as long as the buyer is an American citizen it doesn't matter where he lives. It's the buyer's problem if he brings a "banned" gun into his state, not the seller's.

    4. No electronic records were kept. Every entry is scrubbed every 24 hours. There's no FFL so the "keep the records until they turn to dust" rule doesn't apply. I might be convinced to require the seller to keep a record of the proceed document.


    This would make private sales "safer" (make the libs happy) while preserving privacy and the rights of Americans to trade freely. IMO this isn't really a 2nd amendment issue, it's a commerce issue. If they ban the private sale of guns, what's next? Gold? Then what, where does it end?
    That's a lot of "ifs." What you'll get is Universal Registration. In ten years....they will then ban semi-autos. All one has to do is read up on what happened to Canadians, Australians, and the British. They always start with registration.....Then governments ban guns. History does repeat itself.
     
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