slinkyonrampage
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Does Louisiana still recognize out of state FLA permits for CCW?
Out of state FLA permit?
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slinkyonrampage
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Thanks lou.
Guate_shooter
LA CHP Instructor # 522
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HB 60 / Act 346 – Rep. Wooton. Mandates that Louisiana will not recognize non-resident out of state permits issued by states such as Florida and Utah. Louisiana will continue to recognize resident permits issued by any state with which there is current reciprocity. Those Louisiana residents who are carrying under the provisions of an out of state permit will have one year to obtain the LA resident permit or suspend their concealed carry.
HB 60 / Act 346 – Rep. Wooton. Mandates that Louisiana will not recognize non-resident out of state permits issued by states such as Florida and Utah. Louisiana will continue to recognize resident permits issued by any state with which there is current reciprocity. Those Louisiana residents who are carrying under the provisions of an out of state permit will have one year to obtain the LA resident permit or suspend their concealed carry.
Florida offered non-resident CCW permits that were easier to obtain than Louisiana Resident permits, so many LA residents just went and got the FL non-resident and it was valid here.
Do to the ease of obtaining it and the relative closeness of the state is probably why it is mentioned so much.
The real reason Louisiana isn't going to honor out of state permits, is because Louisiana wants to force you to pay for a Louisiana permit. They figure, if you're going to get a permit anyway, they want the money here, not in some other states coffers.
Like everything else they force on us in the name of "safety", etc.. it's all about the Benjamins.
Like everything else they force on us in the name of "safety", etc.. it's all about the Benjamins.
The final version of the law would recognize non-resident out of state permits held by residents of any state except Louisiana. The bottom line is a Louisiana resident MUST have a Louisiana permit to carry in Louisiana.
This is simply not true. When Louisiana passed legislation mandating "shall issue" CHPs, the legislature was very specific in what training it required, and the other requirements.
Louisiana specifies 9 hours of training for example, but Florida does not. Louisiana offers reciprocity to FL CHP holders, as a courtesy to FL residents who occasionally travel here. It makes perfect sense for Louisiana to demand that Louisiana citizens meet the requirements set forth by our legislature.
Early on it seemed that states would offer reciprocity to other states if their requirements were similar. That seems to have evolved into "tit for tat", or just reciprocity based on reciprocity. Regardless, the intent of reciprocity is to offer a courtesy to other states so that they will offer us the same courtesy. It was never intended to allow nationwide shopping for the best deal.
profiler999
Member
Seriously?
Yes. See Below taken from ACT No. 346:
http://www.legis.state.la.us/billdata/streamdocument.asp?did=721669
And this is total horsehockey. The removal for non-resident FL reciprocity has zero to do with training, zero to do with safety, zero to do with "shopping" and everything to do with power and money.
Instructors here in LA trained for LA and FL permits simultaneously in their classes and gave the option of either or both permits. Most people were choosing FL permits for the longer period of licensing for the same fees and, originally, for reciprocity with more states (that changed over time but it was a factor early on). In other words, LA residents got the identical training for a non-resident FL license--probably more than a FL resident gets when they apply for a resident license.
If the legislature is so concerned with training and safety, why do they still recognize FL resident permits? Or resident permits from other states with less training required.
It's revenue.
Believe what you want. But then again - so what? The state can make the rules for concealed carry and it has decided that Louisiana residents must have a Louisiana permit which, by the way, is exactly the same rule as Florida. Florida will not recognize a non-resident permit issued to a Florida resident. If that is the case, why should Louisiana?
With respect to this question: "If the legislature is so concerned with training and safety, why do they still recognize FL resident permits? Or resident permits from other states with less training required." The reason reciprocity is provided to residents of other states with less required training is that it is required in order to obtain reciprocity in those states for Louisiana residents.
You do realize that you can get a FL non-resident permit by simply sending in a copy of your LA hunter's safety, right?
I understand that some instructors were doing it for both but you did not have to have any type of valid CHP training to get a FL non-resident permit.
No Louisiana trainer has trained "for FL", as FL does not specify what is necessary, and will accept almost anything.
As I stated in my original post, and Dan has reiterated, the reason that LA gives reciprocity to states with lower training standards is in order to get reciprocity in return.
Lastly, if you think it's all about the revenue, please give some data on the revenue raised and the cost of administering the program, and show me how Louisiana is 'getting rich' or even breaking even on the program. I haven't researched this, but my guess is that it's break-even at best. Since you made the statement that it's all about the revenue, why don't you do some research and prove it.
