Private Handgun Sales Question

[thperez1972]

It’s not that hard to document and has advantages. Forms are all over the www.

Bill of sale protects the buyer in the event somehow your gun makes it into LEO hands and is determined to have been used in a crime at some point prior to purchase date.

Protects the seller if the weapon is found at the scene of a crime and LEO runs the serial number to find original owner….if seller bought new….or prior sellers kept BoS.

It's even easier than finding a form in the www.

Date:
Make and Model:
Serial Number:

Seller Name:
Seller DL#:
Seller Signature:

Buyer Name:
Buyer DL#:
Buyer Signature:

Copy, paste, print. You don't need my address or any other information about me. And there's little you can do with my dl#. The only thing you need to do is see that the dl#, the name, and the picture are all good. If there's some issue later on and you have to explain when and with whom the transfer was conducted, you have enough information where the police can begin to search.

 

[Fordfella]

You should meet them in front of the BATFE office at the Galleria and ask for LADL, CDL, VA card, library card, Restricted Radiotelephone Operations Permit(had one as a teen), Pilots License, SAG card, B97 FM SuperCard, NRA card, Red Cross First Aid card, KISS ARMY ID, BLOCKBUSTER card, OCP ID, CCP, and a note from your Mother.

You have a SAG card? When I was in CA, I've seen people who would sell their Siamese twin down the river for a SAG card!!! An ATF agent told me someone marked that they were not an illegal drug user, then tried to use their Medical Marijuana card as an ID.

 

[chibajoe]

I always do a BOS and will require proof of residency (i.e. LA DL or ID) if I'm selling. That basically just covers my legal obligations for vetting the buyer.

 

[Mitch Dufour]

I always do a BOS and will require proof of residency (i.e. LA DL or ID) if I'm selling. That basically just covers my legal obligations for vetting the buyer.

What are your legal obligations to vet a buyer?

 

[thperez1972]

What are your legal obligations to vet a buyer?

Vet them for what?

 

[cbbr]

What are your legal obligations to vet a buyer?

Proof of residency - LADL will do. As long as they reside in La, you are good.

 

[davidd]

Not gonna look up the actual laws, but I personally consider that my obligations are to ensure:
1. Buyer is a resident of my state.
2. Buyer as far as I can tell is not prohibited from purchasing a firearm. Yes, this is hard to tell, thus the required bill of sale. It's above and beyond, and if someone doesn't want to do it, they are free to pass on my sales.

 

[Mitch Dufour]

Proof of residency - LADL will do. As long as they reside in La, you are good.

So that is the law? I have to require that another La resident prove he is resident before I sell to them? Do I have to get them to prove they are not convicted felons as well?

 

[Mitch Dufour]

Vet them for what?

That is what I was asking Joe.

 

[Gator 45/70]

I no longer sell to Krauts on the east side of the river unless you're a well known member in good standing.
You whom jump on here and want to buy everything with no rating can suck it.

 

[thperez1972]

That is what I was asking Joe.

You asked what has to be done to vet them but you never said what they needed to be vetted for. How can someone say what needs to be done to meet a set of conditions if you won't list the conditions?

 

[Mitch Dufour]

You asked what has to be done to vet them but you never said what they needed to be vetted for. How can someone say what needs to be done to meet a set of conditions if you won't list the conditions?

Maybe that will help clarify the fog you seem to have on my simple question about the declarative statement Joe made.

 

[thperez1972]

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Maybe that will help clarify the fog you seem to have on my simple question about the declarative statement Joe made.

It doesn't.

"What are the legal obligations to vet a buyer?"

"Vet them for what?"

"Residency, prohibited person, etc."

See? There's a part of the question you've omitted, making it not so simple.

"What are your legal obligations to vet a buyer"

"Vet them for what?"

<your turn>

 

[yamaha0343]

I really only buy and sell on here, and everyone I've met has been 100% top notch. I don't personally bother with a bill of sale. I would 100% bounce from a transaction if something came off as shady, but that just hasn't happened with the guys from this site. I've had some high quality bs'ing with you guys actually.

 

[thperez1972]

I really only buy and sell on here, and everyone I've met has been 100% top notch. I don't personally bother with a bill of sale. I would 100% bounce from a transaction if something came off as shady, but that just hasn't happened with the guys from this site. I've had some high quality bs'ing with you guys actually.

This should go without saying but I'll say it anyway. Don't rely on membership to this site alone to establish credibility. Unless we have a reason, we usually don't vet members here. In fact, there was a relatively recent transaction between 2 members on here that didn't go as planned.

 

[chibajoe]

What are your legal obligations to vet a buyer?

Louisiana resident, over the age of 18 (for handguns), not a felon. LA ID and a signed BOS stating they're legally able to buy the gun is good enough for me.

 

[John_]

It’s not that hard to document and has advantages. Forms are all over the www.

You don't even need a form. I write it out on half a piece of loose leaf paper and we both sign it. Heck, you could do it on a piece of scrap card board from a box and a crayon. I take a pic with my phone and give original to purchaser. Done deal, really simple.

" I _______________ sell to _________________ an AR-15 s/n_________________ for $500.

Print names in blanks above, date it and sign it below. I have put 4 pistols on one simple BOS, one transaction with a fellow member here. Everybody's phone takes pics today, even flip phones. No need to over complicate this.