Question About SBR, Sort of.........

[Booseman]

I am looking at buying this upper (BCM Standard 11.5" Upper Receiver Group w/ Daniel Defense (DARK EARTH) RISII Mk18 Handguard).

My question is if I buy this and put it on a stripped lower that I have and make it a pistol do I need to do any NFA paperwork? Later on down the road I will do the paperwork to create an SBR. I just want to make sure I am ok to throw it on a pistol lower that I am making??

 

[jasonj5313]

You are g2g

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[cjscore]

I did the pistol route while waiting on my first stamp. It is a great way to shoot the lower and upper while waiting on a stamp. It is legal.

 

[Bosco]

holy crap that thing is pricey.. $810 plus shipping and doesn't even come with a bcg? what makes it worth that much?

 

[goteron]

The RIS II

 

[Sugarbug]

That is gorgeous. You going to have it put together when you get back for R&R?

 

[goteron]

I would also say, shoot the lower a bit to make sure its vetted before turning in paperwork.

 

[Booseman]

I would also say, shoot the lower a bit to make sure its vetted before turning in paperwork.

That is the idea of going ahead and running it as a pistol first. That way I can test it out.

 

[Booseman]

That is gorgeous. You going to have it put together when you get back for R&R?

No, but when I come home for good at the of January I hope to have it sitting at the house. I think for right now I am going to try and get a 9mm upper built for the stripped lower I have at the house. The only thing is that it is about a 90-120 day wait for them through RRA.

 

[Captain_Morgan]

Don't pistol lowers have to be marked as such? I may be making that up, it happens.

 

[bs875]

Don't pistol lowers have to be marked as such? I may be making that up, it happens.

You're making it up. Even if a lower is marked "pistol" it doesn't mean it is. It's the configuration of parts that makes it a pistol or not.

 

[sph1480]

I did the pistol route while waiting on my first stamp. It is a great way to shoot the lower and upper while waiting on a stamp. It is legal.

i did the same. makes the wait a little easier.

 

[JCcypress]

You're making it up. Even if a lower is marked "pistol" it doesn't mean it is. It's the configuration of parts that makes it a pistol or not.

While we're on that point and talking about 9mm ARs... Does a SBR lower have to indicate the proper caliber of the rifle? I remember reading that "Multi" caliber is no longer acceptable on an SBR.

For example...

If I happen to have an AR lower marked "Multi" and I want to SBR it, will I run into problems?
If I happen to have an AR lower marked "5.56" and I want to SBR it as a 9mm (w/ a mag block), will I run into problems?

Not trying to hijack your thread Booseman - these questions seem like they may be relevant to your intentions, as well.

Someone point me in the right direction if this has previously been covered.

Thanks!

 

[Booseman]

While we're on that point and talking about 9mm ARs... Does a SBR lower have to indicate the proper caliber of the rifle? I remember reading that "Multi" caliber is no longer acceptable on an SBR.

For example...

If I happen to have an AR lower marked "Multi" and I want to SBR it, will I run into problems?
If I happen to have an AR lower marked "5.56" and I want to SBR it as a 9mm (w/ a mag block), will I run into problems?

Not trying to hijack your thread Booseman - these questions seem like they may be relevant to your intentions, as well.

Someone point me in the right direction if this has previously been covered.

Thanks!

No hijack at all, those are good questions. As the rules change all the time.

 

[Captain_Morgan]

You're making it up. Even if a lower is marked "pistol" it doesn't mean it is. It's the configuration of parts that makes it a pistol or not.

Thanks. I knew the whole, "Once a rifle, always a rifle" thing applied and that you could convert a pistol to rifle but not back. There's too many damn rules.

 

[BrandonLSU]

Your ATF Form 4473 needs to say handgun for the receiver or else you are in violation of the law and risk a 10 year prison stint.

 

[BrandonLSU]

also, I believe that the lower receiver can never have been registered as a Long Gun not sure though, I think you can go only one direction without a $200 stamp and a lot of paperwork (State and Federal).

 

[Captain_Morgan]

also, I believe that the lower receiver can never have been registered as a Long Gun not sure though, I think you can go only one direction without a $200 stamp and a lot of paperwork (State and Federal).

I'm pretty sure that is correct.

 

[rockmup]

Thanks. I knew the whole, "Once a rifle, always a rifle" thing applied and that you could convert a pistol to rifle but not back. There's too many damn rules.

This is incorrect. They can in fact go back and forth.

Your ATF Form 4473 needs to say handgun for the receiver or else you are in violation of the law and risk a 10 year prison stint.

This is wrong too. It has to go in the books as a receiver.