Recent Gun Control developments/speculation thread

[Vanilla Gorilla]

I think what Bloomberg is saying is that the President should clearly define what he wants to see happen. I wish he would do that to.

 

[lsufan1971]

Guys I don't believe he can do this via Executive Action. Congrees was granted the power to Levy Taxes by The Constitution. The President cannot levy new taxes via Executive Order.

Congress has already granted the power with the NFA act of 1934. It would not be considered "new". The Director of ATF ads the list of guns to the NFA1934 list same thing they did with the street sweeper and variants.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

I think that's oversimplified. It would require a re-interpretation of sporting purpose etc. I also think that the Street Sweeper thing was approved by congress. Not to mention I think it's being imported rather than domestic played a role.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

If in the next four years our elected leaders force ehanced gun control on us the central issue for 2016 will be Gun Control. The Dems saw the result of that in 2000. More so than anything else politicians wanna stay politicians. I don't see any net gain.

 

[thatguy]

I am glad I sold all of my guns and ammo before this happened.

 

[1911Dave]

I am glad I sold all of my guns and ammo before this happened.

Im glad I lost mine in a boating accident

 

[Vermiform]

I think that's oversimplified. It would require a re-interpretation of sporting purpose etc.

Which is what Uncle BATFuk almost did to a few shotguns only last year. The only thing that stopped them was a quick under the radar sneaky piece of legislation tacked on to the omnibus bill. Using this method I think they could go after imported "scary rifles" like you said. Wouldn't solve their problem of domestically produced ARs though. Could possibly regulate them through the UN Arms treaty. Not ban, but regulate them if the treaty were ratified.

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[Dishonored]

Hmmm.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Which is what Uncle BATFuk almost did to a few shotguns only last year. The only thing that stopped them was a quick under the radar sneaky piece of legislation tacked on to the omnibus bill. Using this method I think they could go after imported "scary rifles" like you said. Wouldn't solve their problem of domestically produced ARs though. Could possibly regulate them through the UN Arms treaty. Not ban, but regulate them if the treaty were ratified.

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Have you read the UN Treaty?

 

[JR1572]

Im glad I lost mine in a boating accident

We should ban boats because all of you gun guys keep being irresponsible and losing your guns on boating trips.

JR1572

 

[Vermiform]

Have you read the UN Treaty?

A few parts of it last year before it was scrapped and I won't pretend to understand much of it. Some of it seemed able to be applied to the US via increased regulation as long as they didn't cross the line and implement any bans. I have not looked at any of it since the elections and the renewed interest. Has it changed much? Is it even the same document?

I do know that they would not need any help from a treaty to implement any new import bans. The would only have to reclassify some rifles as non-sporting, much like they tried to do with some shotguns.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Nothing in it relates to Domestic or International Possession. It simply requires countries to track and record where they export weapons and who receives them. All treaties have to be ratified by the Senate. The UN has no legislative authority in the US or anywhere else. In order for the law to change in the US, if a change was mandated by the treaty, Congress would have to do it.

 

[Sin-ster]

My prediction on what will happen:

Nothing.

A lot of hubbub, media coverage, chest-beating and rhetoric.
Another "scare" leading to scarce ammo, primers, powder and AR's.
Another couple of years to recover from the retarded process outlined above.

And then nothing.

MAYBE, if we're very lucky, a few thousand people will finally learn their lesson about paying attention to media hype at all-- whether they agree or disagree with it.

Politics are a business; mass media is a business; used car sales are a business.

Why do we find more merit in what the first two businesses have to say, and immediately question the third?

Perhaps the most important point-- without the right amount of funds, nads and know-how, there's nothing we can do about it anyway. Write your congressman and elected officials if their cookie-cutter autoresponse will make you feel better. In the end, all we have the power to do is jack up prices and create shortages-- frantic consumerism at its finest.

/cynical, emotionless Realism.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Ding Friggin Ding

 

[Robhic]

Hey, Gun Controllers -- Answer Me This

Before you get your knickers in a twist about gun control, please answer me this: Connecticut is listed by the Brady people as the state with the 4th strongest gun control laws. If gun control is the answer, how did those children and others at Sandy Hook get shot?! If Connecticut is so safe, WHY DID THEY LET THOSE PEOPLE GET KILLED?

Please explain before you get rolling to control our guns. Thank you and carry on.

 

[lab rat]

Also micro stamping will be included.

I don't see the micorstamp thing happening. Forensic community has for the most part proven this is unreliable and we are better off leaving things as they are. I think it passed in California but was then overturned after a short period (not 100% sure of that though).

 

[JNieman]

I think you posted to the wrong place. I don't think there are any 'gun controllers' on here.

 

[Trachito]

I think you posted to the wrong place. I don't think there are any 'gun controllers' on here.

word. you're preaching to the quire here.

 

[cajun 22]

Sin-ster nailed it. Plus they (DEMS) don't want to lose traction in the senate for the 2014 elections. The pretender in chief wants to keep a stronghold somewhere so he is not out there alone.

 

[Company Man]

word. you're preaching to the quire here.

That just doesn't read right...
"You're preaching to the choir here"