Russian Ammo ban

[Jstudz220]

I had no idea 40% of America’s ammo was foreign


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It very well could be but it’s not what I’ve ever seen locally. I’d say maybe 10% at best what I see in stores is Russian made ammo

 

[southerncanuck]

I didn’t realize everyone was so passionate about Russian ammo! I’ve pounded through a couple cases of Tula but it’s certainly nothing worth getting emotional about as far as I can tell.

I thought people around here would be more enthusiastic about the government actually helping boost US businesses by cutting off the influx of cheaper imported alternatives, but maybe consistency isn’t important when it affects to our bang bang toys. No sense wasting and opportunity to feel victimized and get mad, right?

Maybe it's just me, but unless you're so desperately low that you're going out to panic buy some junk steel ammo this weekend, I can't really see how this move matters in the grand scheme of things. Furthermore, at least as I read the thing, it only applies to new and pending permit applications, so we'll see if this actually even impacts the major manufacturers at all.

 

[KDerekT83]

I didn’t realize everyone was so passionate about Russian ammo! I’ve pounded through a couple cases of Tula but it’s certainly nothing worth getting emotional about as far as I can tell.

I thought people around here would be more enthusiastic about the government actually helping boost US businesses by cutting off the influx of cheaper imported alternatives, but maybe consistency isn’t important when it affects to our bang bang toys. No sense wasting and opportunity to feel victimized and get mad, right?

Maybe it's just me, but unless you're so desperately low that you're going out to panic buy some junk steel ammo this weekend, I can't really see how this move matters in the grand scheme of things. Furthermore, at least as I read the thing, it only applies to new and pending permit applications, so we'll see if this actually even impacts the major manufacturers at all.

Banning the cheap ****, causes the supply/demand ratio to change, which means the price on the ammo we do use will go up higher than it already is.

 

[jessopher]

I didn’t realize everyone was so passionate about Russian ammo! I’ve pounded through a couple cases of Tula but it’s certainly nothing worth getting emotional about as far as I can tell.

I thought people around here would be more enthusiastic about the government actually helping boost US businesses by cutting off the influx of cheaper imported alternatives, but maybe consistency isn’t important when it affects to our bang bang toys. No sense wasting and opportunity to feel victimized and get mad, right?

Maybe it's just me, but unless you're so desperately low that you're going out to panic buy some junk steel ammo this weekend, I can't really see how this move matters in the grand scheme of things. Furthermore, at least as I read the thing, it only applies to new and pending permit applications, so we'll see if this actually even impacts the major manufacturers at all.

There is no non-russian made 5.45 as well as a few others, but also not taking into account the impact across the industry. You only shoot American stuff and that's great, your American stuff is about to cost more because of the lack of Russian imported stuff. Also you misunderstood the new import permit part, it goes by shipments so the next time an importer goes to submit forums for a reorder it will be denied. This is a complete ban of Russian made ammo and components, like what Hornady uses, and whatever is here or on the ships already will be the last of it .

 

[Magdump]

I had no idea 40% of America’s ammo was foreign


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I’d have estimated 50%. The Tula factories make a lot of ammo sold under other names but they’re not just talking about Russian ammo. There are many others imported that won’t be affected.
Sellier and Bellot, PPU, Aguila just to name a few. Serbian, Czech, Argentine ammo and others will keep coming in. Not to mention the ammo made for American ammo companies by foreign manufacturers. I’ve made it my business, over the past 30+ years to know where my ammo comes from and what I can invest in vs what I should pass on. Except for 7.62x39, 5.45x39 and maybe some 7.62x54R, not much will be affected. Other manufacturers load these calibers. They just don’t all offer any quite as cheap.
But guess what, not all communist bloc ammo is Russian, neither are all ex com bloc countries part of the now defunct USSR. I think that’s where some concern mistakenly originated.
So, Tula, Wolf, Barnaul, and a few other brand names will dry up but there are still sources for this ammo and the components that won’t fall under the Biden plan. I was glad to make a large purchase of Wolf match 22LR a couple years back before the current crunch and won’t likely need any more in my lifetime. The rest I can work around.

 

[Magdump]

There is no non-russian made 5.45 as well as a few others,…

Not true, just not as cheap.

 

[Core]

AK owners can get into the reloading game like every other nation that has tyrant leaders and dictators pulling the strings like Biden and his band of idiots. I believe Biden's autocracy and the ATF are both going to see a timely end sooner than later. They are all violating laws by banning arms, ammo, and features. They are in a unified political road to perdition that is making a mockery of Western Law, and SCOTUS and We the People are not going to let it slide anymore!

 

[Xeon64]

Maybe this is the perfect opportunity for an American Company to start making cheap steel case ammo that is Berdan Primed. EPA will probably make this not possible.

 

[Magdump]

Maybe this is the perfect opportunity for an American Company to start making cheap steel case ammo that is Berdan Primed. EPA will probably make this not possible.

They wouldn’t have to make it mil spec and would likely be smart not to. Just steel cases to save money and keep the cost down. Sellier and Bellot has long offered some of the best and it’s NON CORROSIVE. Again, I hate to get on a soap box about this issue, but it’s not that big an issue.

 

[323MAR]

I bet the ******* and chief does not have the balls to ban the import of Russian vodka. If this really is about punishment for vile acts, then Biden should hit them where it hurts. This is all about punishing gun owners though.

 

[Bigchillin83]

maybe palmetto state will step up fill the void... they already produce aks and now own the ammo factories of remington plus remington did make steel case at one time, but not sure if its repackaged or not, they seem like the company to do it... I do shoot alot of steel, and i reload, steel is much easier and cheaper and i have never had a issue with it.. But i have some stacked up from cheaper prices...

It made it a lot easier to burn though 1000 .223 steel @ $179 vs $400 in brass, same with 9mm and obviously 7.62x39... Ive had fals,m1a's and AR10's that would eat up that $320 per 1000 .308 vs well over $500 per 1000 for brass m80... Plus you not on the ground like a crack head saying theres more brass down here somewhere i know it!!!!

 

[Jstudz220]

maybe palmetto state will step up fill the void... they already produce aks and now own the ammo factories of remington plus remington did make steel case at one time, but not sure if its repackaged or not, they seem like the company to do it... I do shoot alot of steel, and i reload, steel is much easier and cheaper and i have never had a issue with it.. But i have some stacked up from cheaper prices...

It made it a lot easier to burn though 1000 .223 steel @ $179 vs $400 in brass, same with 9mm and obviously 7.62x39... Ive had fals,m1a's and AR10's that would eat up that $320 per 1000 .308 vs well over $500 per 1000 for brass m80... Plus you not on the ground like a crack head saying theres more brass down here somewhere i know it!!!!

PSA does now own Remington ammo. Vista Outdoors purchased Remington ammunition. PSA isn’t saving anything unfortunately.