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  • biggie1447

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    is it legal to have ammo on my person or in a dorm room on school campus as long as the gun stays in the car?

    i am likely going to be living on campus soon and would like to make sure that it isnt illegal to have extra ammo in my room for my gun. (gun will not leave car unless i am not on campus and then it will be on me)
     

    yamatitan

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    I 99% sure its legal to have a gun in your dorm. So ammo should be gtg. Reason being is your dorm is considered your home while your living there. Its the same as having a gun in your car parked on campus. You can get in trouble with the school but not from the law.

    Wait till someone knows the law for a fact to chime in though.
     

    charliepapa

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    As to your actual question, I don't know so I won't make something up. However...

    IMHO it's more irresponsible to leave a gun in your car than it is to break the rule and bring it in your dorm, unless you have the ability to lock it in a safe in your car. Or, if it's a non-revolver, just slip the top end off since it by itself is not a gun and you won't be breaking any rules by bringing it inside. You can leave the most evil part, the receiver, in the car for the thieves, but my guess is they would leave it alone unless it was shiney.

    http://consolevault.com/vehicle-vaults/
     

    madmax4x4

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    Being legal has nothing to do with it. I was put on Behavioral probation for having a small amount ammo in my dorm and my room was search by campus police for a firearm. I didn't have one but still got **** for the ammo. Less then a hand full. It was not a deal but could have a negative effect on scholarships
     
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    biggie1447

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    As to your actual question, I don't know so I won't make something up. However...

    IMHO it's more irresponsible to leave a gun in your car than it is to break the rule and bring it in your dorm, unless you have the ability to lock it in a safe in your car. Or, if it's a non-revolver, just slip the top end off since it by itself is not a gun and you won't be breaking any rules by bringing it inside. You can leave the most evil part, the receiver, in the car for the thieves, but my guess is they would leave it alone unless it was shiney.

    http://consolevault.com/vehicle-vaults/

    if i need too i can. i really dont leave anything valuble in my car (especially not sitting out in the open) but i have been thinking about getting a small gun safe and securing it under my seat.

    the idea with detaching the slide has some merit as well, i will have to consider doing that.
     

    Jimmy Dean

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    Yes, you can have ammo in your dorm or on your person.

    Yes, you can have a gun in your dorm room. And the campus police ARE NOT legally allowed to search for a firearm in your dorm room. An RA can get away with it.

    Yes, you can have a gun in your car on campus. No, the police cannot legally search for a firearm in your car. No, an RA cannot legally search for a gun in your car. I do not know if a school administrator can though.

    Yes, you can get in trouble from the school. But last time that happened, LSU ended up changing their school policies about firearms in vehicles because of the lawsuits they were threatened with by someone they expelled. (Would be hard for a publically funded school to win that argument in court, a private institution would have more luck.)
     

    CCW

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    Here is LA R.S. 14:95.2, which defines firearm-free zones.

    R.S. 95.22 C(8) clearly states that the firearm-free zone does NOT apply to "A student who possesses a firearm in his dormitory room or while going to or from his vehicle or any other person with permission of the administration.

    Whether or not you get in trouble with the school is another matter.

    "§95.2. Carrying a firearm, or dangerous weapon, by a student or nonstudent on school property, at school-sponsored functions or firearm-free zone

    A. Carrying a firearm, or dangerous weapon as defined in R.S. 14:2, by a student or nonstudent on school property, at a school sponsored function, or in a firearm-free zone is unlawful and shall be defined as possession of any firearm or dangerous weapon, on one's person, at any time while on a school campus, on school transportation, or at any school sponsored function in a specific designated area including but not limited to athletic competitions, dances, parties, or any extracurricular activities, or within one thousand feet of any school campus.

    B. For purposes of this Section, the following words have the following meanings:

    (1) "School" means any elementary, secondary, high school, vocational-technical school, college, or university in this state.

    (2) "Campus" means all facilities and property within the boundary of the school property.

    (3) "School bus" means any motor bus being used to transport children to and from school or in connection with school activities.

    (4) "Nonstudent" means any person not registered and enrolled in that school or a suspended student who does not have permission to be on the school campus.

    C. The provisions of this Section shall not apply to:

    (1) A federal, state, or local law enforcement officer in the performance of his official duties.

    (2) A school official or employee acting during the normal course of his employment or a student acting under the direction of such school official or employee.

    (3) Any person having the written permission of the principal.

    (4) The possession of a firearm occurring within one thousand feet of school property and entirely on private property, or entirely within a private residence, or in accordance with a concealed handgun permit issued pursuant to R.S. 40:1379.1.

    (5) Any constitutionally protected activity which cannot be regulated by the state, such as a firearm contained entirely within a motor vehicle.

    (6) Any student carrying a firearm to or from a class, in which he is duly enrolled, that requires the use of the firearm in the class.

    (7) A student enrolled or participating in an activity requiring the use of a firearm including but not limited to any ROTC function under the authorization of a university.

    (8) A student who possesses a firearm in his dormitory room or while going to or from his vehicle or any other person with permission of the administration.

    D.(1) Whoever commits the crime of carrying a firearm, or a dangerous weapon as defined in R.S. 14:2, by a student or nonstudent on school property, at a school-sponsored function, or in a firearm-free zone shall be imprisoned at hard labor for not more than five years.

    (2) Whoever commits the crime of carrying a firearm, or a dangerous weapon as defined in R.S. 14:2, on school property or in a firearm-free zone with the firearm or dangerous weapon being used in the commission of a crime of violence as defined in R.S. 14:2(B) on school property or in a firearm-free zone, shall be fined not more than two thousand dollars, or imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not less than one year nor more than five years, or both. Any sentence issued pursuant to the provisions of this Paragraph and any sentence issued pursuant to a violation of a crime of violence as defined in R.S. 14:2(B) shall be served consecutively. Upon commitment to the Department of Public Safety and Corrections after conviction for a crime committed on school property, at a school-sponsored function or in a firearm-free zone, the department shall have the offender evaluated through appropriate examinations or tests conducted under the supervision of the department. Such evaluation shall be made within thirty days of the order of commitment.

    E. Lack of knowledge that the prohibited act occurred on or within one thousand feet of school property shall not be a defense.

    F.(1) School officials shall notify all students and parents of the impact of this legislation and shall post notices of the impact of this Section at each major point of entry to the school. These notices shall be maintained as permanent notices.

    (2)(a) If a student is detained by the principal or other school official for violation of this Section or the school principal or other school official confiscates or seizes a firearm or concealed weapon from a student while upon school property, at a school function, or on a school bus, the principal or other school official in charge at the time of the detention or seizure shall immediately report the detention or seizure to the police department or sheriff's department where the school is located and shall deliver any firearm or weapon seized to that agency.

    (b) The confiscated weapon shall be disposed of or destroyed as provided by law.

    (3) If a student is detained pursuant to Paragraph (2) of this Subsection for carrying a concealed weapon on campus, the principal shall immediately notify the student's parents.

    (4) If a person is arrested for carrying a concealed weapon on campus by a university or college police officer, the weapon shall be given to the sheriff, chief of police, or other officer to whom custody of the arrested person is transferred as provided by R.S. 17:1805(B).

    G. Any principal or school official in charge who fails to report the detention of a student or the seizure of a firearm or concealed weapon to a law enforcement agency as required by Paragraph (F)(2) of this Section within seventy-two hours of notice of the detention or seizure may be issued a misdemeanor summons for a violation hereof and may be fined not more than five hundred dollars or sentenced to not more than forty hours of community service, or both. Upon successful completion of the community service or payment of the fine, or both, the arrest and conviction shall be set aside as provided for in Code of Criminal Procedure Article 894(B)."

    Acts 1991, No. 833, §1; Acts 1992, No. 197, §1; Acts 1993, No. 844, §1; Acts 1993, No. 1031, §1; Acts 1994, 3rd Ex. Sess., No. 25, §1; Acts 1994, 3rd Ex. Sess., No. 38, §1; Acts 1994, 3rd Ex. Sess., No. 107, §1; Acts 1999, No. 1236, §1.
     

    herohog

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    The thing it boils down to is while you CAN legally keep the gun in your dorm room, the school can expel you for it if they have the rules set up to do so. The question for you becomes do you risk your education to keep the gun in your room or not. Seeing as the RA's (and whoever else has a master key) has access to your room, just how safe is your room in terms of gun storage? The best advice I have seen is to secure a small safe in the trunk of your car and lock that sucker in there that way you avoid all of the issues and cover theft prevention as well.
     

    BigNick73

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    +1 what herodog said

    Also check with school security, the college I went to would let you check the gun in the security office where they'd hold it in their safe. Kind of a PITA, but it beats getting expelled and dealing with the possibility of theft.
     

    bs875

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    Keep it locked in a small safe, hidden under a pile of sex toys. No one is going to want to touch anything. And don't tell anyone you have it or get the urge to show it off.
     

    biggie1447

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    Keep it locked in a small safe, hidden under a pile of sex toys. No one is going to want to touch anything. And don't tell anyone you have it or get the urge to show it off.

    lol. that would be a good place. :rofl:

    but i was never intending to keep the gun in my room. just the magazines and spare ammo ( and not even much of that, 50 or so rounds of JHPs)
     

    Nolacopusmc

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    The thing it boils down to is while you CAN legally keep the gun in your dorm room, the school can expel you for it if they have the rules set up to do so. The question for you becomes do you risk your education to keep the gun in your room or not. Seeing as the RA's (and whoever else has a master key) has access to your room, just how safe is your room in terms of gun storage? The best advice I have seen is to secure a small safe in the trunk of your car and lock that sucker in there that way you avoid all of the issues and cover theft prevention as well.

    This
     

    SirIsaacNewton

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    ok so it is legal but may not be liked by the school, i can live with that.

    thanks guys!

    Nolacop beat me to it....

    Personally from living in a dorm, your roomates can be nutz, your floormates can be nutz, and your RA can be nutz. Better off just keeping it locked in your car....
     
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