Senator Feinstein will introduce a bill in January

[LNSvince]

Is this real ?

http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons

 

[DAUC]

I'd like to see how they plan to enforce the requirements for grandfathered weapons.

 

[whitsend]

Yep. But what else would you expect from her?
She proposed something like this every year.
Any chance of this going anywhere? I don't believe so, but let your elected officials know what you want.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Far be it from me to call the good Senator a liar but I haven't seen this version before. Can you post a link of where she claims that? I'd like to prove it wrong.

When I get off work in the morning il find it and post it. The move to add grandfathered weapons has helped kill it in committee everytime. The ATF cannot and doesn't want to try and manage that tar baby. The telling thing I think you guys are missing is who has not announced their support for this bill. No Reid, no Kerry, no anybody. Nobody wants to touch this but the extreme left wing of the Democratic Party.

The executive order thing isn't a legitimate fear. The President can set administrative policy via Exec Order not legislate. For instance he could direct the ATF to stop issuing Tax Stamps for Supressors but he could not make Supressors illegal. The often cited "Street Sweeper" example is misleading because they met the criteria already established for being listed as Destructive Devices but had been overlooked when they began to be imported. The President cannot levy new taxes via Exec Order. Adding weapons to the NFA list that are not currently on it is Levying New Taxes.

 

[ejt1469]

Join the NRA and/or GOA. Lets swell the numbers. If your buddy is too cheap to pony up the $35, then sponsor them or sponsor a friend, son, mother, brother, or monkey's uncle.

You can also get a yearly associate membership for 10 frigin' buck!

Any chance of this going anywhere? I don't believe so, but let your elected officials know what you want.

Right on. No point waiting and sitting back. We should be jumping on this now.

 

[VeedUp]

I already sent an email to my congressman, I will try and call or email the senators tomorrow

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Guys the person you all need to be contacting is the Senior Senator From Louisiana. She's the one with a swing vote.

 

[mADWAND]

It's not just about her this time:

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

You mean Obama doesn't like guns?!? Well damn, that changes everything. PANIC!!!!!!!!

 

[JWG223]

Here is the "Ban List" for proposed AWB '13...

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.)—author of the federal *assault weapon* and *large* ammunition magazine ban of 1994-2004—has announced that on the first day of the new Congress—January 3rd— she will introduce a bill to which her 1994 ban will pale by comparison. On Dec. 17th, Feinstein said, *I have been working with my staff for over a year on this legislation* and *It will be carefully focused.* Indicating the depth of her research on the issue, she said on Dec. 21st that she had personally looked at pictures of guns in 1993, and again in 2012.

According to a Dec. 27th posting on Sen. Feinstein’s website and a draft of the bill obtained by NRA-ILA, the new ban would, among other things, adopt new definitions of *assault weapon* that would affect a much larger variety of firearms, require current owners of such firearms to register them with the federal government under the National Firearms Act, and require forfeiture of the firearms upon the deaths of their current owners. Some of the changes in Feinstein’s new bill are as follows:

Reduces, from two to one, the number of permitted external features on various firearms. The 1994 ban permitted various firearms to be manufactured only if they were assembled with no more than one feature listed in the law. Feinstein’s new bill would prohibit the manufacture of the same firearms with even one of the features.

Adopts new lists of prohibited external features. For example, whereas the 1994 ban applied to a rifle or shotgun the *pistol grip* of which *protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon,* the new bill would drastically expand the definition to include any *grip . . . or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.* Also, the new bill adds *forward grip* to the list of prohibiting features for rifles, defining it as *a grip located forward of the trigger that functions as a pistol grip.* Read literally and in conjunction with the reduction from two features to one, the new language would apply to every detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifle. At a minimum, it would, for example, ban all models of the AR-15, even those developed for compliance with California’s highly restrictive ban.

Carries hyperbole further than the 1994 ban. Feinstein’s 1994 ban listed *grenade launcher* as one of the prohibiting features for rifles. Her 2013 bill carries goes even further into the ridiculous, by also listing *rocket launcher.* Such devices are restricted under the National Firearms Act and, obviously, are not standard components of the firearms Feinstein wants to ban. Perhaps a subsequent Feinstein bill will add *nuclear bomb,* *particle beam weapon,* or something else equally far-fetched to the features list.

Expands the definition of *assault weapon* by including:

Three very popular rifles: The M1 Carbine (introduced in 1944 and for many years sold by the federal government to individuals involved in marksmanship competition), a model of the Ruger Mini-14, and most or all models of the SKS.

Any *semiautomatic, centerfire, or rimfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds,* except for tubular-magazine .22s.

Any *semiautomatic, centerfire, or rimfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches,* any *semiautomatic handgun with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds,* and any semi-automatic handgun that has a threaded barrel.

Requires owners of existing *assault weapons* to register them with the federal government under the National Firearms Act (NFA). The NFA imposes a $200 tax per firearm, and requires an owner to submit photographs and fingerprints to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE), to inform the BATFE of the address where the firearm will be kept, and to obtain the BATFE’s permission to transport the firearm across state lines.

Prohibits the transfer of *assault weapons.* Owners of other firearms, including those covered by the NFA, are permitted to sell them or pass them to heirs. However, under Feinstein’s new bill, *assault weapons* would remain with their current owners until their deaths, at which point they would be forfeited to the government.

Prohibits the domestic manufacture and the importation of magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition. The 1994 ban allowed the importation of such magazines that were manufactured before the ban took effect. Whereas the 1994 ban protected gun owners from errant prosecution by making the government prove when a magazine was made, the new ban includes no such protection. The new ban also requires firearm dealers to certify the date of manufacture of any >10-round magazine sold, a virtually impossible task, given that virtually no magazines are stamped with their date of manufacture.

Targets handguns in defiance of the Supreme Court. The Court ruled in District of Columbia v. Heller that the Second Amendment protects the right to have handguns for self-defense, in large part on the basis of the fact handguns are the type of firearm *overwhelmingly chosen by American society for that lawful purpose.* Semi-automatic pistols, which are the most popular handguns today, are designed to use detachable magazines, and the magazines *overwhelmingly chosen* by Americans for self-defense are those that hold more than 10 rounds. Additionally, Feinstein’s list of nearly 1,000 firearms exempted by name (see next paragraph) contains not a single handgun. Sen. Feinstein advocated banning handguns before being elected to the Senate, though she carried a handgun for her own personal protection.

Contains a larger piece of window dressing than the 1994 ban. Whereas the 1994 ban included a list of approximately 600 rifles and shotguns exempted from the ban by name, the new bill’s list is increased to nearly 1,000 rifles and shotguns. Other than for the 11 detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifles and one other semi-automatic rifle included in the list, however, the list appears to be pointless, because a separate provision of the bill exempts *any firearm that is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, or slide action.*

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/f...ein-goes-for-broke-with-new-gun-ban-bill.aspx

I added red to hit high points.

 

[DAUC]

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[JWG223]

You sure of the date on this? looks like "Aired on December 15, 2012"

didn't see that :/

 

[DAUC]

I got a little excited for a second..

 

[JWG223]

I got a little excited for a second..

Same

 

[headspace]

I know that Hitler called for a mandatory "registration" of all firearms just prior to soldiers going house to house, list in hand, to confiscate the registered weapons. Same thing happened in another country before mass disarming. But I'm not worried about that ever happening here. Never catch me wearing a tinfoil hat...

 

[JWG223]

I know that Hitler called for a mandatory "registration" of all firearms just prior to soldiers going house to house, list in hand, to confiscate the registered weapons. Same thing happened in another country before mass disarming. But I'm not worried about that ever happening here. Never catch me wearing a tinfoil hat...

I don't think things are as bad as people say, nor are they as good as the liberals want us to believe. The truth is usually somewhere in the middle, but your area does have a recent history of being disarmed at gun-point by the military.

 

[rgudan]

Proposed new assault weapons ban

Has anyone seen this!? there trying to require all grandfathered in "assault weapons" to be not only registered but you also have to have a photo on file and you have to get fingerprinted just for owning one my question is because ive never registered a weapon if you have ones that are passed down to you but you have no proof of purchase what happens do they take it? also its going to ban the transfer so does that mean i cant give the weapon to say one of my children? this is so unamerican its not even funny see for yourself



Summary of 2013 legislation
Following is a summary of the 2013 legislation:

Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:
120 specifically-named firearms;
Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one or more military characteristics; and
Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.
Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:
Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test;
Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test; and
Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans.
Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.
Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:
Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment;
Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes; and
Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons.
Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:
Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the firearm;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

There are a few threads about this already.

 

[Jack]

You mean Obama doesn't like guns?!? Well damn, that changes everything. PANIC!!!!!!!!

The morons so surprised by this voted against Obama because of his gun control stance. I wonder how many of them really knew Romney signed an AWB and would probably be working with the dems right now to "unite the parties, end the gridlock in Washington, and pass meaningful legislation so that we never have another sandy hook again"

Read the quote in his voice and cadence. It's creepy

 

[JamesBlake]

Wait to panic...this is just some same ole

Something will come out of it most likely, most important just stay on top of it for now.