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Hoo-ahh!
You believe that, you never met the one who could make you get on your knees and beg for it.
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You believe that, you never met the one who could make you get on your knees and beg for it.
That's not entirely factual.
I'm 100% Irish and my wife says I work magic all the time!
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You also left out Takuan that your phone is stupid. How does relate to this? I will try and explain it.
You talk about what these "Great" men said and came up with. However you fail to accept that they knew they didn't know everything and put into place mechanism for change.
They did seem to understand that our freedoms let us give power to others by representation, and not the other way around. Which is those in power, give us freedom they deem appropriate.
You see, your phone is stupid. Because now there is a smarter phone. The iphone 3G. And in your former circle of friends you perhaps where the smarter. But now you are around us, and we are smarter.
We even invite you to participate in face to face conversation and share a meal with us. Which I think is great gesture of faith on our part that your not a complete nutcase. Yet you say its to far "for lunch" But is that all it is to you is lunch?
But you still speak of all these people and try and interpret what they mean, yet they went very far from their homes to get to know people with differing views and ideas and come to a compromise.
If you really want to know what equality people have. There is only one thing. And that is 24 Hours. We all have 24 hours in the day. How you spend yours defines you as a person. My father told me that. And he by the way was smart enough to get an Iphone 3G.
What is unfair about the world, is you may have to spend your 24 hours a days escaping form subjugation, and another man may spend his 24hours a day subjugating others, and another may spend his 24 hours a days sleeping.
I think you need to start meeting oppressed people face to face in this country that have escaped tyranny and oppression. And asked them what they went though. Then figure out how to keep our country from becoming like their country.
You talk about what these "Great" men said and came up with. However you fail to accept that they knew they didn't know everything and put into place mechanism for change.
They did seem to understand that our freedoms let us give power to others by representation, and not the other way around. Which is those in power, give us freedom they deem appropriate.
You see, your phone is stupid. Because now there is a smarter phone. The iphone 3G. And in your former circle of friends you perhaps where the smarter. But now you are around us, and we are smarter.
We even invite you to participate in face to face conversation and share a meal with us. Which I think is great gesture of faith on our part that your not a complete nutcase. Yet you say its to far "for lunch" But is that all it is to you is lunch?
But you still speak of all these people and try and interpret what they mean, yet they went very far from their homes to get to know people with differing views and ideas and come to a compromise.
If you really want to know what equality people have. There is only one thing. And that is 24 Hours. We all have 24 hours in the day. How you spend yours defines you as a person. My father told me that. And he by the way was smart enough to get an Iphone 3G.
What is unfair about the world, is you may have to spend your 24 hours a days escaping form subjugation, and another man may spend his 24hours a day subjugating others, and another may spend his 24 hours a days sleeping.
I think you need to start meeting oppressed people face to face in this country that have escaped tyranny and oppression. And asked them what they went though. Then figure out how to keep our country from becoming like their country.
Time to Fess Up
Participating in this thread violated one of my three cardinal rules:
1. Never start a land war in Asia.
2. Never pass gas in an elevator conveying fewer than three people.
3. Never argue politics or religion with strangers on the internet.
Henceforward, I will confine myself to learning as much as I can about the safe and responsible use of firearms from the many knowledgeable folks here and elsewhere.
My apologies, and thank you.
Participating in this thread violated one of my three cardinal rules:
1. Never start a land war in Asia.
2. Never pass gas in an elevator conveying fewer than three people.
3. Never argue politics or religion with strangers on the internet.
Henceforward, I will confine myself to learning as much as I can about the safe and responsible use of firearms from the many knowledgeable folks here and elsewhere.
My apologies, and thank you.
Does this mean we win? Oh! While I am thinking about it, before we go off quoting anymore of our forefathers. We need to look at the context of the day, in which they made said phrase. Their interpretation of ALL MEN, and ours, is two very differant annalogies. When they talk about men, they mean men literally, not women, that were not slaves, so now we are speaking free white men, who were established I. The community. The forefathers constructed the constitution on the priciples of creating opporunity, for anyone who wanted it. Now it is up to us the people, and our leaders to protect our opportunity. Socialism, Communism, whatever you wan to call it, big govt., even hampers opportunity, which directly conflicts with the constitution, and our forefathers. If you think you would be better off, and have more oppotunity under socialist rule, the get on welfare it is basically the same thing. People on welfare are slaves, and they don't even know it try becoming a millionaire under socialist rule. If you parents weren't a millionaire, you will never be. You will get enough to get by, and only if you possesss some special gift, or are incredibly lucky will you succeed beyond what will become poverty level.
You missed one...
I think you mean four cardinal rules:
4. Never reveal what a dumbass you are by talking out of your ass.
I think you mean four cardinal rules:
4. Never reveal what a dumbass you are by talking out of your ass.
hell, we're close enough to Socialism now that if you're not born privileged then you will most likely never become privileged.
I'd be willing to bet that 3/4 of the millionaires on this forum were born to wealthy families. Further, that less than 1/4th of them came from poverty to become millionaires on their own.
I'd be willing to bet that 3/4 of the millionaires on this forum were born to wealthy families. Further, that less than 1/4th of them came from poverty to become millionaires on their own.
mcinfantry
*Banned*
i do not believe this.
May be false, may be true, wish we could find out with some amount of accuracy.
I find that wealthy people who were born into it dont like to admit it, and those that came from poverty talk about it all the time.
Its not that the opportunity isnt there...its simply that wealthy/rich people can help their kids become wealthy/rich through good advice and monetary assistance.
I find that wealthy people who were born into it dont like to admit it, and those that came from poverty talk about it all the time.
Its not that the opportunity isnt there...its simply that wealthy/rich people can help their kids become wealthy/rich through good advice and monetary assistance.
mcinfantry
*Banned*
i do believe it will be difficult to achieve LARGE amounts of wealth, its not too hard. luck, and risk... but you have to risk.. that IS the american dream. everyone today wants BOSS pay, with employee benefits. anyone in business for themselves knows what that means
Most, but not all, self-made wealthy people know the value of working hard for their money. So they don't flash it around with big cars and houses.It's the ones that inherit it, or whose parents are rich, actors, etc. who really didn't have to "work" for it who are the flashy ones
You didnt know that is what the premium member section is. It is where all of us silver spoon fed peeps hang out. If you didnt get the memo I guess Spanky seen your W-2
You didnt know that is what the premium member section is. It is where all of us silver spoon fed peeps hang out. If you didnt get the memo I guess Spanky seen your W-2
Got my glass of chardonny right here. Don't you
Support for Big Business & Corporations = Interference for Small Business and Entrepeneurs.
For instance, the Income Tax...and unaportioned Tax on the property of Citizens, they have a harder time building businesses...etc.
Originally Corporations paid the Tax that funded the Federal government. Income Tax comes into play, Corporate Tax breaks come into play & corporate incentives...'free trade', for instance, then it becomes easier for them to build their business and harder for the small business and entrepeneurs to build their businesses, now that they have to pay tax on their income...etc.
mcinfantry
*Banned*
weird, i just dont see it like that. its not black and white.
Opportunity is here for the people that have good work ethic, and are willing to run the risk with there own money. People think they can borrow money to start a business, and it is going to pay for itself 9 times out of 10 go broke within the first year. I am fortunate to work for a great businessman, who sees my potential. before that I was in business for myself. I closed my business down, to work for my boss now, to be able to learn from him. He came up from nothing. I grew up with nothing, and am learning right now, the sacrifices and risk that must be run to attain any wealth.
The only way I see that Gov't helps big business, is by hampering small business. Insurance, and Lawyers are the small businessman's worst enemy, and the Gov't requires so much of both it isn't funny. You almost need to be a Lawyer yourself to be in most businesses. I was a very good Trim Carpenter, and Cabinet Maker for alot of years in Asc. Parish. I could not have started my business, if I didn't have the money to pay almost 15000 a year in insurance. I savd the money for my insurance, and tried to pay as much of my premium off as I could when I would make good money on jobs.
To do any kind of business now, the amount of liability insurance, and Workman's Comp Insurance you have to have is unbelievable. God help you if someone gets hurt on the job, or you have a property damage claim. It wasn't enough, that the General Contractor had Insurance, for the past 10 Years, even the Sub-Contractors have to carry insurance, before the general can hire you. That cut out alot of trash from the business, but it also hampered young upstarts like me, who were just coming onto the scene.
This type of regulation, and the fact that the business owner runs all the risk, is how the Gov't is helping big business, and hindering the little man. The customer has no liability, and runs no risk.
Free Trade helps all businesses, that want to be competitive in the market today.
The only way I see that Gov't helps big business, is by hampering small business. Insurance, and Lawyers are the small businessman's worst enemy, and the Gov't requires so much of both it isn't funny. You almost need to be a Lawyer yourself to be in most businesses. I was a very good Trim Carpenter, and Cabinet Maker for alot of years in Asc. Parish. I could not have started my business, if I didn't have the money to pay almost 15000 a year in insurance. I savd the money for my insurance, and tried to pay as much of my premium off as I could when I would make good money on jobs.
To do any kind of business now, the amount of liability insurance, and Workman's Comp Insurance you have to have is unbelievable. God help you if someone gets hurt on the job, or you have a property damage claim. It wasn't enough, that the General Contractor had Insurance, for the past 10 Years, even the Sub-Contractors have to carry insurance, before the general can hire you. That cut out alot of trash from the business, but it also hampered young upstarts like me, who were just coming onto the scene.
This type of regulation, and the fact that the business owner runs all the risk, is how the Gov't is helping big business, and hindering the little man. The customer has no liability, and runs no risk.
Free Trade helps all businesses, that want to be competitive in the market today.
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