Shouldering Sig Brace = Illegal

[Jack]

On the bright side, shitty stocks are about to be real cheap...

 

[Harrisracing]

You got that right! I knew this was coming too. The letter is very well clarified, so I'll be sure to inform those who had loophole plans that they are in violation. Sounds like they spell out that if it isn't velcro'd to your arm while shooting you are in violation as well. Since it was approved in the 'velcro'd on to firearm state'.

 

[FD807]

This has been coming. You can only pull the tigers tail for so long before you get bit. If people would have left it alone and just did their thing this never would have happened.

 

[George]

Never under stood it why not just spend 200 and never have to worry if it's legal or not. Who gives a **** if the man knows you have a gun or not. If it comes to teotwawki it's not really going to matter

 

[SpeedRacer]

Never under stood it why not just spend 200 and never have to worry if it's legal or not. Who gives a **** if the man knows you have a gun or not. If it comes to teotwawki it's not really going to matter

Especially when e-filing for an SBR is down to about 25 days.

 

[Harrisracing]

Never under stood it why not just spend 200 and never have to worry if it's legal or not. Who gives a **** if the man knows you have a gun or not. If it comes to teotwawki it's not really going to matter

It was potentially nice for those of us that travel out of state for work to not have to send the letter every time you cross a state line border with an SBR. And the whole SBR thing is appealing toe because of the smaller sized travel package!

 

[jmcrawf1]

It was potentially nice for those of us that travel out of state for work to not have to send the letter every time you cross a state line border with an SBR. And the whole SBR thing is appealing toe because of the smaller sized travel package!

*facepalm*

 

[Harrisracing]

*facepalm*

Man I'm serious. I roll with a rifle package out of town all the time. I guess I'll have to stick with the su-16c. 300 blackout shorty sure would be handy in a suitcase though!

 

[JR1572]

It was potentially nice for those of us that travel out of state for work to not have to send the letter every time you cross a state line border with an SBR. And the whole SBR thing is appealing toe because of the smaller sized travel package!

And there you have it. This is why we cannot have nice things.

JR1572

 

[JR1572]

https://www.turlockcitynews.com/cri...the-arrest-of-three-for-turlock-home-invasion

JR1572

 

[Harrisracing]

And there you have it. This is why we cannot have nice things.

JR1572

Uhhh what?

I would like to be able to travel state-to-state with my FEDERALLY licensed SBR's without having to send a letter each time I do it. I live in Louisiana, work frequently in Houston, and also frequently shoot guns and hunt in Mississippi. The sig brace loophole was CLEARLY the easiest exploitation of the SBR law to which there is no going back on after this clarification. I didn't write a letter to the ATF asking for the clarification!

 

[Harrisracing]

And...the National Firearms Act is WHY we cannot have nice things (without being "on the grid", and without a heavy price)

 

[JR1572]

Uhhh what?

I would like to be able to travel state-to-state with my FEDERALLY licensed SBR's without having to send a letter each time I do it. I live in Louisiana, work frequently in Houston, and also frequently shoot guns and hunt in Mississippi. The sig brace loophole was CLEARLY the easiest exploitation of the SBR law to which there is no going back on after this clarification. I didn't write a letter to the ATF asking for the clarification!

So instead of building an SBR, a pistol with a sig brace on it is great because you don't have to SBR it and deal with all that paperwork when traveling out of state? The sig brace was never intended to be a loophole to avoid having to get a tax stamp for an SBR.

JR1572

 

[JR1572]

And...the National Firearms Act is WHY we cannot have nice things (without being "on the grid", and without a heavy price)

Look, I don't like the rules either. However, I don't like the idea of going to prison or becoming a felon.

JR1572

 

[ta2d_cop]

https://www.turlockcitynews.com/cri...the-arrest-of-three-for-turlock-home-invasion

JR1572

Woops!

And...the National Firearms Act is WHY we cannot have nice things (without being "on the grid", and without a heavy price)

And Here. We. Go.

 

[Harrisracing]

So instead of building an SBR, a pistol with a sig brace on it is great because you don't have to SBR it and deal with all that paperwork when traveling out of state? The sig brace was never intended to be a loophole to avoid having to get a tax stamp for an SBR.

JR1572

Strike through "is" replace with "was" and you had the prior logic of many. I agree with the ATF's letter totally. We ALL knew that the brace wasn't 'intended' to skirt the SBR laws, but we all saw how many did it (I may or may not have been included in the group). It was the debate of MANY publications (many of which touting the complete and total legality of shouldering the sig brace) and I'd say the majority of sig brace owners were in fact exploiting the lack of clarification. It's over and done with now for sure though so we can go back to our boring old NFA laws.

 

[Harrisracing]

Oh...and let's not have them clarify the question of which holding an AR pistol buffer tube to your shoulder is legal or not (there's your face palm). I mean the intent of a 'pistol' should be fired from the hands and not supported from other parts of the body, but hey I have never seen a letter saying I "can't" do it?

 

[JR1572]

Strike through "is" replace with "was" and you had the prior logic of many. I agree with the ATF's letter totally. We ALL knew that the brace wasn't 'intended' to skirt the SBR laws, but we all saw how many did it (I may or may not have been included in the group). It was the debate of MANY publications (many of which touting the complete and total legality of shouldering the sig brace) and I'd say the majority of sig brace owners were in fact exploiting the lack of clarification. It's over and done with now for sure though so we can go back to our boring old NFA laws.

Thanks for answering the question I didn't ask.

JR1572

 

[Harrisracing]

Woops!



And Here. We. Go.

Lol! Awesome article. I love how they posed all of that evidence on the table for the picture. I wonder if they were "intending" to break the law with that sig brace or not? Lol

 

[nolaradio]

I'm really tired of hearing people talk about this stupid issue. A lot of the podcasts I listen to are bringing this up almost every other episode. Personally, I don't care which way the BATF views the brace. Regardless of what they say, people are going to use the thing how they want to use it.
Anyway... I'm just waiting to see who is going to be the first idiot to post a video to YouTube showing themselves using the brace as a stock up against their shoulder, and then get a knock on the door from the BATF.