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Not this again. Concealed means concealed. If you get caught, and don't leave when asked, then you are trespassing. Pretty sure that just carrying where there is a no firearms sign, is not trespassing.
Are you going to bring up "in a parade" vs "at a parade" again as well?
Not this again. Concealed means concealed. If you get caught, and don't leave when asked, then you are trespassing. Pretty sure that just carrying where there is a no firearms sign, is not trespassing.
Are you going to bring up "in a parade" vs "at a parade" again as well?
I don't go to parades . I never mentioned parades at any point ...ever .
Regarding the definition of trespassing you guys are using.(that it isn’t trespassing until you are asked to leave) My understanding of trespassing is if you are on private property without permission, you are trespassing - period. (For example a person walking around my farm.) Is this definition written specifically for concealed carry? It seems to me you Violate the law when you consciously entered the property while concealed carrying. Not trying to argue, I just haven’t seen that definition written anywhere.
I have spoken to several CHP instructors and a couple of attorney friends of mine and all agree that the statute is ambiguous at best. Take the parade paragraph that I mentioned from the latest rulebook http://www.lsp.org/pdf/chRuleBook.pdf
N. No concealed handgun may be carried into and no concealed handgun permit
issued pursuant to this Section shall authorize or entitle a permittee to carry a concealed
handgun in any of the following:
(9) A parade or demonstration for which a permit is issued by a governmental
entity.
What defines "in" a parade vs "at" a parade. If I am marching or riding a float, I am definitely "in" a parade. If I am standing on Canal Street watching the parade pass, am I "in" a parade or "at" a parade. Until someone gets charged and fights it in court, and a precedent is set, no one has any idea how to interpret this clause.
Additionally
O. The provisions of Subsection N of this Section shall not limit the right of a
property owner, lessee, or other lawful custodian to prohibit or restrict access of those
persons possessing a concealed handgun pursuant to a permit issued under this Section. No
individual to whom a concealed handgun permit is issued may carry such concealed
handgun into the private residence of another without first receiving the consent of that
person.
There is no penalty described for a violation of the above. As there is no legal signage in the State of Louisiana, and no defined penalty, the general consensus is that you can only be charged for trespassing if you are asked to leave the premises and refuse to do so. Simply carrying a firearm where a sign that carries no weight of law, "may" not pass muster for a trespass charge. Again, until someone takes this to court and a precedent is set, you are your own judge of how you want to proceed.
Personally, I pay no attention to a sign that has no legal precedent.
N. No concealed handgun may be carried into and no concealed handgun permit
issued pursuant to this Section shall authorize or entitle a permittee to carry a concealed
handgun in any of the following:
(9) A parade or demonstration for which a permit is issued by a governmental
entity.
What defines "in" a parade vs "at" a parade. If I am marching or riding a float, I am definitely "in" a parade. If I am standing on Canal Street watching the parade pass, am I "in" a parade or "at" a parade. Until someone gets charged and fights it in court, and a precedent is set, no one has any idea how to interpret this clause.
Additionally
O. The provisions of Subsection N of this Section shall not limit the right of a
property owner, lessee, or other lawful custodian to prohibit or restrict access of those
persons possessing a concealed handgun pursuant to a permit issued under this Section. No
individual to whom a concealed handgun permit is issued may carry such concealed
handgun into the private residence of another without first receiving the consent of that
person.
There is no penalty described for a violation of the above. As there is no legal signage in the State of Louisiana, and no defined penalty, the general consensus is that you can only be charged for trespassing if you are asked to leave the premises and refuse to do so. Simply carrying a firearm where a sign that carries no weight of law, "may" not pass muster for a trespass charge. Again, until someone takes this to court and a precedent is set, you are your own judge of how you want to proceed.
Personally, I pay no attention to a sign that has no legal precedent.
