I don't think too many people are left in Commisfornia? Been seeing a lot of plates here lately,Don't think they are stopping for Boudan?
I've been seeing those and New York plates a lot
I theorize that many of the far left trouble makers have left and gone to Colorado, Oregon, Texas and other states to try to turn them into socialeftic pervidise like they did with Cali. Just a matter of time before Texans see the same level of fv<kery start growing in their laws and government. Just look at poor Colorado.I don't think too many people are left in Commisfornia? Been seeing a lot of plates here lately,Don't think they are stopping for Boudan?
I theorize that many of the far left trouble makers have left and gone to Colorado, Oregon, Texas and other states to try to turn them into socialeftic pervidise like they did with Cali. Just a matter of time before Texans see the same level of fv<kery start growing in their laws and government. Just look at poor Colorado.
First it’s hard to find ammo now we can’t find mags after this lol
It will be shot down before the first mag is delivered.
"So, there are a lot of questions about "Can mags be shipped to CA now?" I've spent most of my morning trying to determine the answer to that very question. I'm not an attorney, I just sometimes have to talk like one at work and fake it, so keep that in mind. This is not legal advice, and you should confirm or deny any of this with your own attorney prior to doing anything at all, because it's entirely possible that I'm full of it. But here's what I understand:
The circuit court process is a little different. The filing of the actual decision is not what makes the decision "final". The decision is "final" when the court issues a mandate saying so, which occurs a minimum of 7 days after the decision. But...the state could file an appeal for en banc review. That just means that if approved, the case would be reviewed by a panel of 11 judges instead of 3, so it's not really "en banc" but the ninth circuit is so large they break it up that way. The state has 14 days to file for en banc review, and at the end of that time, if they do not file, that's when the 7 day clock would actually start for the mandate to be issued, and for the decision to be final.
If the state DOES file for en banc review (probably filing that right now), then there is a vote as to whether or not the review is granted. If they vote for NO review, then the 7 day clock starts then. If they vote to allow review, we could have 2-3 months or more to wait for the en banc review, and the decision of the court will not be "final" until after that decision, and then the 7 day period after.
Our attorneys initially thought that we were good to start shipping immediately, until we talked to the folks that were savvy on federal circuit court process, including an appellate attorney in CA that filed one of the amicus briefs on the case, and has represented our interests out there before.
Bottom line is that we have between 7 days and several months before the decision is "final" which is what triggers the release of the lower court stay--to my understanding. Any of y'all that are actual circuit court appellate attorneys can tighten me up, and I'll correct this post.
Don't get me wrong...this is awesome--just not "open the floodgates" time. And, don't be discouraged-- with the current makeup of the 9th, it's not a sure thing that en banc review would sink it. It's almost 50/50 now on that court, so the draw for the en banc panel will foretell how that will go. Especially given the wording and strength of both the benitez decision and the 3 judge panel decision on the 9th, it's really encouraging.
TL;DR Can't ship mags to CA yet, have to wait for official court Mandate to be filed regarding the decision, may be 7 days to a few months for that to happen."