Well this could sucks for those of us who set up a trust...
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That's fine but now every person in the trust has to go through the NFA process with fingerprinting and photos and then forward the forms to the CLEO.
That is what I don't like. A lot of hassle in my opinion.
Do I now have to pay an additional $200 stamp for that? Since now 2 people are being cleared? That would be utter BS.
And what about a successor Trustee? Do they have to apply as well? When are these changes supposed to take place?
Thankfully, from what I can tell, the changes only seem to be proposed at this time so it may not be a problem at all. We will see.
Sugarbug,
Wouldn't worry too much about it.
Most of these things are done on grandfather status; imagine what insanity the ATF would face if they made it retroactive so all trust transfers had to comply.
But I heavily suggest that you get your items as soon as you can.
Louisiana requires a LSP form to be approved prior to sending in your Form 4, and recently that has been taking a month or more to get.
My guess is that if your paperwork is in the process that it won't affect you.
Disclaimer- I am not an attorney and this is my opinion only. YMMV.
Wouldn't worry too much about it.
Most of these things are done on grandfather status; imagine what insanity the ATF would face if they made it retroactive so all trust transfers had to comply.
But I heavily suggest that you get your items as soon as you can.
Louisiana requires a LSP form to be approved prior to sending in your Form 4, and recently that has been taking a month or more to get.
My guess is that if your paperwork is in the process that it won't affect you.
Disclaimer- I am not an attorney and this is my opinion only. YMMV.
Yeah. At this point I can only submit what I need to and hope for the best. Should have the trust in a couple weeks once I sign and have it notarized.
I can only imagine at what the current wait is, though, given the current state of affairs.
Form 4, once it goes pending, 5-7 months.
This is NOT once the check is cashed- after cashing, it usually goes pending in a month or so.
Recent times for me have been 1 month for LSP to approve and return paperwork, then you can send in your Form 4 and begin to embrace the suck.
I have heard that some new NFA examiners have been hired but do not remember how many.
In any event, the only examiner for Louisiana is Jason Bowers, who has all of region IV which includes NE, IA, KS, MO, OK, AR and LA.
Here's the assignment map:
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/nfa/053012-nfa-assignement-map-2012.pdf
But I believe there are more examiners now- looks like the map may be a bit outdated.
Imagine this guy's caseload... hope they pay him enough.
This is NOT once the check is cashed- after cashing, it usually goes pending in a month or so.
Recent times for me have been 1 month for LSP to approve and return paperwork, then you can send in your Form 4 and begin to embrace the suck.
I have heard that some new NFA examiners have been hired but do not remember how many.
In any event, the only examiner for Louisiana is Jason Bowers, who has all of region IV which includes NE, IA, KS, MO, OK, AR and LA.
Here's the assignment map:
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/nfa/053012-nfa-assignement-map-2012.pdf
But I believe there are more examiners now- looks like the map may be a bit outdated.
Imagine this guy's caseload... hope they pay him enough.
Don't get me wrong, I think we're both in the exact same place. I /just/ got it writ up by a lawyer, and mailed off a couple copies to a trustee I chose, to get him to sign and notarize it so I can get it back and start tax stamp application.
I'm a little aggravated, and will be if those rules pass, but I'm reserving outrage for now.
I'm a little aggravated, and will be if those rules pass, but I'm reserving outrage for now.
I just spoke with mouthpiece and he said that it is likely any application submitted before the new laws go into effect (if ever) would be grandfathered in. Otherwise they $200 check would have to be returned to each applicant and it would (hopefully) be too much of a bother to do.
. Bowers got canned a couple months ago.
I cant find the link at the moment, but the rule included Trusts, corporations and other legal entities. Also, it was eliminating the CLEO sign-off.....just have to do fingerprints and photos of the owners/trustees/beneficiaries. We shall see.
