Why All of the Gear in the World Won't Save You from Social Collapse

[Gumbo]

If I had a dime for every time someone has commented in a thread about a piece of kit within the context of a "SHTF scenario", I'd be a rich bastard. I HAVE to have an AR because if SHTF, I must have a platform that I can easily find replacement parts for. If SHTF, I can't have an AR because they can't run dirty so the obvious choice is an AK. If SHTF, I can't have an AK because 7.62x39 isn't super common, so I have to have a Ruger 10/22 because .22LR is everywhere. I have nothing against being prepared and I'll admit that some of these threads have meritorious information in them, but the cold hard truth is that if things really did go bad in this country, a lot of people out there would be in deep **** because they look like this.

I've read countless threads about the proper contents of a bug-out bag, the best combat boots money can buy, and the proper weight and setup for a combat rifle, but the fact is a lot of people who peruse this and other forums like it can't even run a mile without suffering coronary failure, let alone hump all that gear and then be able to use it effectively. The next time you go to ask one of these questions, perhaps you should stop and consider if you're even physically fit enough to survive the end of the world before you consider the proper gear for such a scenario.

 

[SpeedRacer]

Buying cool **** > physical fitness

 

[DAVE_M]

Why? Cuz this is 'Merica and that's how we do things...

 

[RyanW]

Gumbo, you are fighting an unwinable war. I love the fact that the "SHTF" guys show off their stockpiles, and usually they are missing the most important things, only because they have no clue what it's like to live for any time away from civilization. I have yet to see a stockpile of toilet paper, baby wipes, detergent, or medical supplies (alcohol, bandaides, basics).

I wonder where these tards think they're going to procure they're parts and ammo??? Are they aware that if it gets as bad as they think, the first things to be gutted will be weapons retailers????

 

[Silent Civilian]

you can't eat your guns.

 

[SGT_Kramer]

Run 5 k everyday like the zombies are chaseing me. I used to do it with my gear but the cops kept pulling up and asking me why I had a AR, shotgun, pistol and 1500 rounds of ammo jogging down the street the bfa I had on my ar barrel wasn't enough for dang civilans to chill out. So now just use strap on weights I love that pic btw

 

[leVieux]

The problem for us would be getting out of New Orleans.

It would be almost impossible to exit under fire.

My # 1 item for SHTF is a foreign bank account. My # 2 is a plane with 750+ mile range.

Officials in any "friendly" nation will confiscate your Gold at the border. Guns will put you in prison.

leVieux

 

[CEHollier]

you can't eat your guns.

However, your gun can procure eats. That said having rounded supplies makes more sense. Guns and ammo alone won't cut it if the TSHF.

 

[LACamper]

The next time you go to ask one of these questions, perhaps you should stop and consider if you're even physically fit enough to survive the end of the world before you consider the proper gear for such a scenario

That's right! You old guys, the out of shape, the ones with disability or with family with disabilities, etc. don't need 1000 rounds of ammo! You only need one round per family member! That's right, you have no chance of escape, so just accept it and calmly blow your brains all over the living room wall! Sorry Gramps...
Is that what you were trying to say Gumbo?

Not me. I think the ones with disabilities or health issues or who are out of shape need to be more prepared than a young healthy person. They probably won't be evacuating on foot. They'll be bugging in until reinforcements arrive. If they don't arrive then locals will start banding together neighborhood by neighborhood. Even though they have disabilities or or out of shape most will have some useful skill or knowledge (survival skills learned from the internet if nothing else). They will also have needed supplies that could be bartered.
Odds are if there is rioting it will be short lived and localized. The weapons and gear they are buying will be of some use. If it is widespread then them being in shape probably won't matter as much as luck.

 

[dfsutton]

However, your gun can procure eats. That said having rounded supplies makes more sense. Guns and ammo alone won't cut it if the TSHF.

They will if you are willing to kill others and take what they have. Just saying...

 

[Spent Brass]

or eat them...

They will if you are willing to kill others and take what they have. Just saying...

 

[dfsutton]

or eat them...

Desperate times call for desperate measures, right?

 

[JimmyB]

I have 4 cases of beer, a bag of Doritos and a 10/22

Let the Shite hit the fan

 

[CEHollier]

They will if you are willing to kill others and take what they have. Just saying...

It's a cold harsh wprld we live in. Maybe the gun would just convince them to share a little.

 

[oleheat]

 

[jimdana1942]

This is the kind of stuff I like to see in a survival forum. Good post. Good talk. Personally, I'm one of the older farts that has all sorts of physical ailments. No running or long walks for me. Also, have to have some daily meds or I will croak within a week.

However, I'm one heck of a shot, careful, don't trust any stranger, yada yada yada. But if things were to get really bad in America and happen very quickly, then I feel like most everyone is gonna make their stand where they are at the moment. The urban areas will be the most dangerous. Suburban areas that are close to urban areas won't be healthy either. If you live in timbucktoo then you can hang on longer, unless roving gangs happen upon you.

But, I think it is a good thing for people to prepare for SHTF scenarios as they feel comfortable doing. It's fun, interesting, and it does provide some sense of relief. All the Survival stuff and gear is really neat.

So I say, keep on a doin' what you like uh doin'. Just have one gun and some ammo ready.

In retrospect, I bet Gen. Custer would like to have had prepared in advance because the SHTF big time for him.

 

[dantheman]

My biggest concern would be getting caught at work when things go bad . It's almost an hour drive in normal evening traffic . If the SHTF , I probably couldn't anywhere near my house by vehicle . If I did happen to be at home or close by , I'm bugging IN . Food , water , meds , guns, ammo , all here .

 

[sandman7925]

Sometimes I think I'm the only person on this board that does not have a SHTF bag nor do I stockpile anything. I am in pretty decent shape though

 

[Grendal]

All I have to do is make it to my family's property out of the city. Hunting, fishing, and fresh water are in walking distance. Around the property are very close family friends that we trust.

Yeah I collect guns and ammo. Different guns for different objectives.

 

[RyanW]

I'm not stockpiling, it's easier to pillage later than to store now.