thanks gunnut
i couldn't agree more about caspian products. i have used their frames and slides on many builds in the past and now i use them almost exclusively on all my builds.
however, for my current build i would like to do it on the cheap since its primary duty is going to be a truck and/or boat gun. thanks again and keep me in mind if you should come across anything.
You might also try Foster Industries, Fosterind.com. They manufacture Caspian frames and sell near perfect rejects at very reasonable prices. You have to call to see what available because they don't update their webpages very often.