2nd BayouShooter Spyderco Sprint Run

[DAVE_M]

End of the day, as a regular guy the wave feature struck me as a gimmick, and a distraction. Just my opinion, and I'm by no means a connoisseur.

Unfortunately it's not for everyone, but it's far from a gimmick. The "bloke" in the video is Mr. Emerson and he's showing how easy it is to wave open the knife. The reason you would "get it about half the time" was because you didn't pull down and away. I wouldn't necessarily say it takes practice, but once you figure it out, it's hard to forget. That being said, waved knives have their place, just as assisted opening flippers do (which I hate).

The PM2 is a nice knife, for what it is. The compression lock and a FFG blade isn't for everyone. The cutting edge to handle length ratio is not equal, which may be off-putting for some people. I know of a good bit of people that dislike the finger groove in the blade, which sacrifices cutting edge length. The PM2 is also more costly and will be more difficult to get the sprint run.

 

[dauc43]

Im in.

 

[patterbs]

I'm in

 

[mdr]

I'm in

 

[Keith2]

I would be IN, if it was a different knife.
I think the right knife for something like this is the award winning Kershaw Cryo II. The design is superior and can be sprung open quickly with a finger Also has one of the most SOLID STEEL FRAME LOCK-UPs.
One side of the steel frame offers the perfect spot for branding, (Bayou Shooter Logo), can be seen closed, and can be made available for under $50.00!!! (I don't need another plastic handled knife.)

*Here's a video review if you want to see what it looks like....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx0kjYsHdIQ

*Kershaw's site: http://kershaw.kaiusaltd.com/knives/knife/cryo-ii-blackwash

 

[whitsend]

I would be IN, if it was a different knife.
I think the right knife for something like this is the award winning Kershaw Cryo II. The design is superior and can be sprung open quickly with a finger Also has one of the most SOLID STEEL FRAME LOCK-UPs.
One side of the steel frame offers the perfect spot for branding, (Bayou Shooter Logo), can be seen closed, and can be made available for under $50.00!!! (I don't need another plastic handled knife.)

*Here's a video review if you want to see what it looks like....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx0kjYsHdIQ

*Kershaw's site: http://kershaw.kaiusaltd.com/knives/knife/cryo-ii-blackwash

I don't think Kershaw offers anything like a Sprint Run.
Anyone could buy some Kershaw knives and have them engraved, but this Spyderco does a custom factory run of the the knife to the spec we choose. And at a substantial discount for members.

 

[DAVE_M]

I don't think Kershaw offers anything like a Sprint Run.
Anyone could buy some Kershaw knives and have them engraved, but this Spyderco does a custom factory run of the the knife to the spec we choose. And at a substantial discount for members.

Correct. Kershaw ( and Zero Tolerance ) does not and probably will never do sprint runs.

I also don't want to be a debbie downer, but the Cryo is a poor choice for a forum knife

 

[rasputin]

I agree. Part of the appeal is the factory directory exclusivity and desirability of a sprint run.

 

[Keith2]

Thanks Whitsend!!
Dave, what would your choice be for a forum knife? The Cryo II, yes, is an inexpensive knife, but much higher quality then any of the plastics/composite handled knives out there including the Spyderco mentioned in this thread. Plus, you could actually see the logo on the side of the thing, which is the point. *Note: Most people on this site already have hundreds of knives, and like you, have their preferred EDC..... so the $50 mark on a higher quality promotional knife is a more realistic target.
Rasputin, I get what you're saying but I think there are less people on here that really care about paying more for a factory direct sprint run knife. In the end... 20 Years from now, there will be thousands of "sprint run" knives out there with hundreds of company names on them and still only be worth $20-$30. (Heck, I picked up a nice one, frame locking, all steel, that BUCK ran with API energy on it a couple years ago and it was only $5.00 in like new condition!!!) No Debbie downers on here... Just say'in...

 

[DAVE_M]

At first, I wasn't going to be a snob, but then I realized your opinion is an uneducated one...

Dave, what would your choice be for a forum knife?

A Spyderco Sprint Run Waved Endura or Sprint Run PM2. You would know that if you read the thread.

The Cryo II, yes, is an inexpensive knife, but much higher quality then any of the plastics/composite handled knives out there including the Spyderco mentioned in this thread.

Quality is relative. The Kershaw Cryo II is made in China. It has a steel framelock and an 8cr13mov blade. That is bottom of the barrel quality, if you want to discuss quality of materials. It is a cheaply made knife, hence the sub $30 price tag. If we're going to talk about Manufacturing Quality & Control, Spyderco far surpasses anything that comes from one of KAI's Chinese factories. You are trying to compare a budget Kershaw to a mid-level Spyderco. Even with FRN handles, the overall fit & finish of the Spyderco Endura is superior.

Plus, you could actually see the logo on the side of the thing, which is the point.

That's not the point!

*Note: Most people on this site already have hundreds of knives, and like you, have their preferred EDC..... so the $50 mark on a higher quality promotional knife is a more realistic target.

$50 mark on a higher quality knife? Are you smoking crack? If you think $50 is high quality, I can't help you. Actually, I take that back. There are some knives that are sub $50 and are very high quality, such as the Victorinox Alox models, but that's an entirely different class of knife compared to your beloved Cryo II.

In the end... 20 Years from now, there will be thousands of "sprint run" knives out there with hundreds of company names on them and still only be worth $20-$30.

You ARE smoking crack... Bayoushooter Enduras were selling for $2-300 on the secondary market. Why? Because they are exclusive!

Let me learn you somethin' boy... Sprint Run knives are typically variations of a certain model that cannot be purchased by the public. You will never be able to walk into a local Academy and purchase a Sprint Run Spyderco PM2. Also, every Sprint Run is different, and since we're all leaning towards a PM2, let me show you some Sprint Run PM2's.

All of these are Sprint Run PM2's that are exclusively different in their own ways. If you look closely, you will notice that each has a different blade steel and different handle material. These are all Sprint Run knives and don't feature a single logo. So the point that you don't seem to understand, is that Sprint Run knives are just as Rasputin has said... It's about exclusivity.

By the way, don't take this as a personal jab, I'm just trying to get the point across that you are not as educated about knives as you may think you are. If you think a $5 Buck knife is high quality, then that's fine, and I have no problem with you being happy, but you should not be preaching that Chinese made steel budget knives are higher quality than knives with 10 times higher quality.

 

[lsufan1971]

I'm in

 

[Keith2]

LOL!!!
There was no personal jab here... Just made a clear intelligent point that upset you. (Not my intention.) oh- and I'm not as "uneducated" as you mentioned or on crack... As you stated while making a failed attempt to belittle my opinion, nor am I as volatile as you. •You made the personal jabs.
(Note to others reading this... The majority of people on here are very nice and respect your opinion. Enjoy the site!!)
And yes many of us own $200-$300 knives, they take forever to sharpen but hold an edge like no other. (Love them) But then again... this is a promotional knife and I was just sharing my opinion that would help Bayou Shooter get their name out there because I like their site. I was not trying to push cheap Chinese knives... And based on real experience of using them, I've had a Spyderco knife with the plastic type handles come apart in my hand at the blade. (No disrespect, I now see you're a Spyderco collector. I'm just a guy that uses a knife daily.)
So... Yes, the blade steel may be better with the Spyderco but the quality of the build is not stronger then the Kershaw. (Sorry... It's just not.) As a daily knife, I'll take the cheap solid built knife that I can use as a tool over the plastic knife any day. The knives you posted are very nice but don't seem to show any wear. Sorry I touched a nerve. Again... Not my intention and I was just trying to help Bayou Shooter. Well... To continue in this conversation would just be ... So Have a nice day and a very Merry Christmas!!

 

[Specularius]

Well, if Dave_M can sell the previous BS model for $300, then I have two that have never been opened that I would sell today for that.

 

[DAVE_M]

Keith... I don't even know how to respond to your ignorance.

Well, if Dave_M can sell the previous BS model for $300, then I have two that have never been opened that I would sell today for that.

There were a few on Bladeforums going for over $200. There aren't many black bladed waved Enduras around.

 

[asianpersuasion]

Last time I looked there were some BS knives still on website. Granted it's been a yr or so

 

[Keith2]

Thanks Dave for not taking those "personal jabs". Gee... I would bet if one looked back at the comments made here today, there would really be only one person taking shots at the other person. Hopefully you didn't find my calling you a "collector" offensive. Merry Christmas!! I'm being sincere... I hope you and your family have a Very Merry Christmas and even with your insults, I really mean it. No hard feelings...

 

[JadeRaven]

 

[rasputin]

Mr Keith, I respectfully disagree with your opinion on Spyderco vs Kershaw quality as I have owned 4 Kershaw and own 5 Spyderco knives among other brands. The comparison just isn't there. Buy yourself a Manix 2. It will change your mind.

 

[Keith2]

Rasputin, That's fair... I respect your opinion. Note my point here was to increase distribution of BS Logo knives, to help Bayou Shooter...
Not to have an opinion-match with others, comparing the quality of a great "budget knife" to a "midrange priced knife". That would be exhausting b/c some products excel in some areas and not in others... Vise versa.... In this case, Spyderco's blade is better steel then the budget Kershaw... but the build strength of the "Cyro model" is much stronger and more innovative then that Spyderco. Tit for tat... Heck, Kershaw also makes some real crap plastic handle knives that sell for $10.00...
(This whole quality thing was something that was brought into the conversation by another's assumption.) If my point was on "total"quality a lone, build strength, blade steel, etcetera, I would have also mentioned other brands or even the higher quality American made Kershaw's. As you know, our opinions and brand loyalties are formed by our experiences and you've obviously had good luck with Spyderco. Awesome!
As mentioned above, I've had one of the Spyderco's with a handle like that come apart in my hand so that's been my experience. The only problem I've experienced with my 6 Kershaw's is the firing mechanism can get dirty over time and the blade doesn't fire out like it should. (It just required a good cleaning and it was good to go.) No big deal... It's all good!! I wish you the best and very much appreciate your comment.
Merry Christmas!!

 

[Keith2]

Oh-just saw your Manix 2. •Very Nice knife...
That model is known for having one of their stronger lock-ups. It will serve you well.