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[honestlou]

I have a question.

Why do 30% , or about 1 in 3, medical professionals have to be threatened with termination in order to persuade them to get the vaccine?

I thought all medical professionals were in agreement that the vaccines are good.

Saw this stat on the news, WWL, this morning on CBS This Morning.

My guess is that "medical professionals" includes nurses, and there are a lot of nurses, and some doctors, who are very political and think that this virus is a scam. Or they're harboring conspiracy theories.

Well over 90% of doctors have been vaccinated.

Almost everyone dying from Covid is unvaccinated. Make your own choices.

 

[civiltiger07]

Almost everyone dying from Covid is unvaccinated.

so people are still dying from covid after getting the vax? hummmmm

 

[honestlou]

so people are still dying from covid after getting the vax? hummmmm

Yes, some people (very few) are still dying from covid after getting vaccinated.

Lots of people are still dying in car wrecks after wearing seatbelts.

Some people die in fires, even after they have fire extinguishers or smoke alarms.

I hope this illustrates the fallacy of what you seem to think is an argument against being vaccinated. Getting vaccinated means that your chances of having a serious case of Covid, or dying from Covid, are GREATLY reduced. It does NOT mean that you cannot get Covid.

 

[DBMJR1]

My guess is that "medical professionals" includes nurses, and there are a lot of nurses, and some doctors, who are very political and think that this virus is a scam. Or they're harboring conspiracy theories.

Well over 90% of doctors have been vaccinated.

Almost everyone dying from Covid is unvaccinated. Make your own choices.

So 10% of Medical Doctors who have 10+ years of medical training
A much higher percentage of RNs, who have 4+ years of medical training
An unknown percentage of LPNs, who have at least two years of medical training

All of these people are skeptical, but there is no reason for a lay person to be skeptical ?


As to being 'political' ; I'm a bit confused.
Trump is responsible for funding the research that brought us the vaccine, and he's vaccinated. He encourages others to get vaccinated.

Biden claims credit for personally inventing the vaccine, has issued edicts demanding everyone get the vaccine, and recently got a booster on TV

Which party is supposed to be the most skeptical?

I am slightly right of , . . . ., well everyone. I got the vaccine.


As for conspiracies, I don't believe in any conspiracy theories even after the government implanted a chip in my chest.



All I'm saying is that people who are skeptical, have a right to be so, and perhaps even good reason.
Many people, with much more medical training than I, are skeptical.

 

[charlie12]

so people are still dying from covid after getting the vax? hummmmm

None of the people that I know that died were vaccinated. None of the people I know that were vaccinated have died or been on a vent.

 

[3fifty7]

Biden claims credit for personally inventing the vaccine,

Could you cite the source for this statement, I don’t remember coming across it ?

 

[Xeon64]

After my Aunt got Covid and had a massive stroke because of it and seeing my wife's Uncle suffocate to death with mesothelioma, I was not taking any chances and got vaccinated in March of this year. I will risk the side effects of the vaccine than risk suffocating to death with a lung illness. Rather be taken out to the pasture and shot than drown in my own fluids.

 

[DBMJR1]

Could you cite the source for this statement, I don’t remember coming across it ?

I'll get back to you, but the list of Biden's lies is long, and it may take me a while to sort through them all.



For those supporting the vaccine mandate; Do people who have recovered from the Wuhan flu and already have natural immunity still need to get vaccinated, or are they allowed to eat out with the other diners who have obeyed their leaders ?

 

[MOTOR51]

I'll get back to you, but the list of Biden's lies is long, and it may take me a while to sort through them all.



For those supporting the vaccine mandate; Do people who have recovered from the Wuhan flu and already have natural immunity still need to get vaccinated, or are they allowed to eat out with the other diners who have obeyed their leaders ?

Maybe this is what you are thinking of.

https://news.yahoo.com/biden-claims-didn-t-covid-131245718.html


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[AustinBR]

So 10% of Medical Doctors who have 10+ years of medical training
A much higher percentage of RNs, who have 4+ years of medical training
An unknown percentage of LPNs, who have at least two years of medical training

All of these people are skeptical, but there is no reason for a lay person to be skeptical ?


As to being 'political' ; I'm a bit confused.
Trump is responsible for funding the research that brought us the vaccine, and he's vaccinated. He encourages others to get vaccinated.

Biden claims credit for personally inventing the vaccine, has issued edicts demanding everyone get the vaccine, and recently got a booster on TV

Which party is supposed to be the most skeptical?

I am slightly right of , . . . ., well everyone. I got the vaccine.


As for conspiracies, I don't believe in any conspiracy theories even after the government implanted a chip in my chest.



All I'm saying is that people who are skeptical, have a right to be so, and perhaps even good reason.
Many people, with much more medical training than I, are skeptical.

You can probably find 10% of MBAs or PhD's that will support investing in cryptocurrencies, yet it doesn't mean that it's a good investment option, compared to alternatives.

Many of my best friends have completed medical school in the past few years and all of them have said that it was a total joke. I have a few other close friends who are RNs who have attested to their medical training being a total joke. My doctor friends tell me that most of the nurses are useless and that 10% of them do all of the heavy lifting, so to speak, in their practice.

I know a few guys who are total morons who somehow managed to become a RN.

I'm not discounting the profession, but I'm just saying that throwing out polarizing statistics is not the best argument.

Almost all immunologists and virologists support getting the vaccine. Most experts in the field of studying viruses support getting the vaccine.

There will always be outliers in every field, but the vast majority of the folks "in the know" are saying it's a good idea. Sure, maybe a few podiatrists or veterinarians don't support it, but should we really be listening to them?

 

[Magdump]

So, personal healthcare choices are now equated to one’s political views, only 10% of nurses can actually do their job and people are looking to veterinarians for healthcare decisions? I’d say there are a few false claims being made here. I think maybe someone is listening to someone who is talking out of the side of their ass or maybe just playing make believe and maybe throwing some extremely fictitious statistics around to see what trolls up. By those numbers a person’s chances of survival during daily life are pretty slim if they have any health problems whatsoever. I would think if healthcare professionals were that inept I would be out of a job because nobody in their right mind would step foot in a hospital.
All my friends went to med school and say it’s a joke, 90% of nurses are useless and their training is a joke and they’re morons…?
I guess what I’m saying is there’s a whole lot of ******** on this page. Like a truckload.
Maybe someone can tell us about the gods of banking and how they’re saving the world…

 

[AustinBR]

So, personal healthcare choices are now equated to one’s political views, only 10% of nurses can actually do their job and people are looking to veterinarians for healthcare decisions? I’d say there are a few false claims being made here. I think maybe someone is listening to someone who is talking out of the side of their ass or maybe just playing make believe and maybe throwing some extremely fictitious statistics around to see what trolls up. By those numbers a person’s chances of survival during daily life are pretty slim if they have any health problems whatsoever. I would think if healthcare professionals were that inept I would be out of a job because nobody in their right mind would step foot in a hospital.
All my friends went to med school and say it’s a joke, 90% of nurses are useless and their training is a joke and they’re morons…?
I guess what I’m saying is there’s a whole lot of ******** on this page. Like a truckload.
Maybe someone can tell us about the gods of banking and how they’re saving the world…

So, what's the view from your perspective? Would you say that a significant percentage of nurses carry the weight that they should?

Of course the figures I referenced are not intended to be taken as anything more than rough generalizations. I don't think that it's not obvious from my post.

Generally speaking, across most industries, a small percentage of people do more of the work than a larger percentage of the people (per industry). There are always going to be more underachievers and folks who just want to do what they have to do than those who are constantly wanting to go the extra mile.

 

[Magdump]

So, what's the view from your perspective? Would you say that a significant percentage of nurses carry the weight that they should?

Of course the figures I referenced are not intended to be taken as anything more than rough generalizations. I don't think that it's not obvious from my post.

Generally speaking, across most industries, a small percentage of people do more of the work than a larger percentage of the people (per industry). There are always going to be more underachievers and folks who just want to do what they have to do than those who are constantly wanting to go the extra mile.

Yeah, it’s just as you described, in a field where we deal with human life. Most of us could give a damn. No work ethic at all and none of us know Jack ****. Once we get out of school we don’t care to learn anything else. It’s all just a big joke. I’m speaking for the lot of us of course.
Remember that when you have no choice but to trust one of us for anything. I mean, surely you don’t really expect anyone in a hospital to save your life one day. In fact, you’d prolly be better off just staying at home when you have anything wrong with your body, rather than walk into a hospital amongst all us who could care less. It’s not like we have standards to live by in my field.

 

[DBMJR1]

Still searching through Biden's lies, . . . , this could take a while. Might want to grab a latte.

There's sooooooo many, . . .



I've two sisters that went to nursing school. It ain't no joke. They struggled to complete the curriculum. They both graduated in the top of their high school classes.

Medical school in Haiti might be a joke, but here in the US it has a very high failure rate. They only accept people with high GPA's with bachelors degrees.

Even after medical school, . . . there is still two more years of practice before a MD becomes licensed.

Trust me, . . . , it ain't no joke.




I'm pretty sure most vets don't have MD's, although I'm told that vet school is more difficult due to the number of anatomies that have to be learned. So I wouldn't discount advice from a vet either. They're pretty smart folks.


Like I said. I've got my two pokes, and will get a booster. I'm not an anti-vaccer. I'm anti-Authoritarianism.

I just don't like being told I HAVE to do anything.

In fact, the numbers reflect that many feel the same way I do. Vaccination rates are FALLING since our emperor decried the mandate.

 

[civiltiger07]

I just don't like being told I HAVE to do anything.

In fact, the numbers reflect that many feel the same way I do. Vaccination rates are FALLING since our emperor decried the mandate.

The more mandates and vax requirements that come out the less I want to get the vax.

 

[Peacemaker]

The more mandates and vax requirements that come out the less I want to get the vax.

You know I've been tempted to get vax'd and I've stopped and asked myself what is the reason for not doing so and it is a little confusing. I really had to stop and think what is preventing me from being vax'd and the only thing I can come up with is this - "I DON"T TRUST THE M'FERS THAT ARE DEMANDING THAT I DO SO!"

This whole thing is F'D up! I have a son with Autism that I'm certain was caused by his shots when he was a 6,mos old baby!

I don't give a damn who believes that or not and I'm not looking to debate! The bottom line is this is AMERICA and we have rights in this country. We are free to choose!

 

[AustinBR]

Yeah, it’s just as you described, in a field where we deal with human life. Most of us could give a damn. No work ethic at all and none of us know Jack ****. Once we get out of school we don’t care to learn anything else. It’s all just a big joke. I’m speaking for the lot of us of course.
Remember that when you have no choice but to trust one of us for anything. I mean, surely you don’t really expect anyone in a hospital to save your life one day. In fact, you’d prolly be better off just staying at home when you have anything wrong with your body, rather than walk into a hospital amongst all us who could care less. It’s not like we have standards to live by in my field.

I have the upmost respect folks who become doctors and nurses because it's often a thankless job, but would you really say that there aren't a bunch of slackers in the job like there are in most other industries or fields?

I'm not hating on doctors or nurses. My main point is that solely because *some* doctors and *some* nurses don't recommend the vaccine is not a good reason to not get it. Most nurses are not experts in viruses or how vaccines work. Most doctors are not either.

I don't know which field you work in specifically. Did you mention ICU at one point? Maybe in the ICU they only get the best and the brightest. I'd hope that's the case.

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[Peacemaker]

I think the whole thing is just conditioning for what is to come sooner rather than later! I don't think this is the "Mark Of The Beast", but I can see it is real and it is coming soon!

 

[vr1967]

This whole thing is F'D up! I have a son with Autism that I'm certain was caused by his shots when he was a 6,mos old baby!

I don't give a damn who believes that or not and I'm not looking to debate! The bottom line is this is AMERICA and we have rights in this country. We are free to choose!

I believe you. I have two that started having seizures within a week of getting their 13 yo shots. Each spent a week in ICU, 27 *specialist* and a slew of doctors later and no clue. Had 2 country doctors tell me don’t give my youngest the shots when she turns 13, but no one will write it on paper. Funny, she didn’t get the shots, and hasn’t had a single issue.

I know of a 6 yo girl that has NEVER had a shot, and has never been sick a day in her life.

I’m not anti vax, nor pro vax, I think you should be able to make your own choice, as *the science* is not always right.

 

[kz45]

1 in 10000 autistic kids before the vax program, now after all our progress we’ve made it to 1in 30, of course that’s not to blame we’re just better at diagnosing, their words not mine.


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