no guns in Catholic churches

[KnightWolf09]

Just saw that the bishops decided that although it has been allowed, no concealed firearms will be allowed in Catholic churches. I missed the update of it being allowed by the state.

 

[KnightWolf09]

Here's the link:
http://m.wwltv.com/wwltv/db_21348/c...iu8&detailindex=2&pn=0&ps=5&full=true#display

 

[CloudStrife]

Stupid bastards... I'm going to complain to our director. Doubt it will do any good, but the message might make its way up the ladder.

 

[Gus McCrae]

I imagine the decision was made way up the ladder. It's a shame.

 

[CloudStrife]

Does the pope have an email address? Bishop Muench is probably on facebook.

 

[oleheat]

Note to the Bishop:

Publically kissing up to the criminal element and those hell-bent on doing evil things won't make them go away. Just sayin'.

 

[CloudStrife]

Guns don't belong in churches, but I guess they do in the Vatican. The Swiss Guard packs pistols, SMGs, and assault rifles along with their rapiers and halberds.

 

[Duck Jenkins]

Guns don't belong in churches, but I guess they do in the Vatican. The Swiss Guard packs pistols, SMGs, and assault rifles along with their rapiers and halberds.

- those guards are trained pro's and not a bunch of random wing nuts with some plastic permit in their pocket showing they took a course, often given by another wing nut, and then took 8 more hours of training, who now know enough to be armed and dangerous, but only to innocent.

If I was the Pope, I would pick Swiss Guards over the random gun toter any day.

 

[CloudStrife]

- those guards are trained pro's and not a bunch of random wing nuts with some plastic permit in their pocket showing they took a course, often given by another wing nut, and then took 8 more hours of training, who now know enough to be armed and dangerous, but only to innocent.

If I was the Pope, I would pick Swiss Guards over the random gun toter any day.

We can carry outside of church freely. Does that make being in public less safe? No. We are more safe. It doesn't take specialized training to be able to follow basic firearm safety with regard to the common self defense situation. The vast majority of the time the gun won't even come out of the holster. And this is beside the point. Are churches impervious to criminals and violence? Absolutely not.
Church goers of 100+ years ago would be disappointed.

 

[DuckYou]

Convert! Protestant Churches are allowing concealed carry.

 

[KnightWolf09]

Not enough to make switch religious practices. Just now, BGs know Catholic churches won't be packing.

 

[DuckYou]

It is called concealed carry. If you have to shoot someone in church, make sure not to hit the innocents and you probably will not be excommunicated.

 

[CloudStrife]

It is called concealed carry. If you have to shoot someone in church, make sure not to hit the innocents and you probably will not be excommunicated.

It hasn't been made Cannon Law... yet.

Just don't get caught... I mean... forget I said that.

 

[Tim67]

Did the state law allowing carry in churches go into effect immediately or is there a date we need to wait for?

 

[oleheat]

- those guards are trained pro's and not a bunch of random wing nuts with some plastic permit in their pocket showing they took a course, often given by another wing nut, and then took 8 more hours of training, who now know enough to be armed and dangerous, but only to innocent.

If I was the Pope, I would pick Swiss Guards over the random gun toter any day.

So, (not wanting to assume anything here) you believe that Louisiana being a "shall issue" state is a rotten idea because the Dept of Public Safety only issues these pieces of plastic to untrained wingnuts who've been authorized to get them by other wingnuts?


Please- humor me.

 

[CloudStrife]

Once upon a time is was common for people to tote rifles and swords EVERYWHERE they went. The right to protect one's self was clearly understood.

 

[oleheat]

I think it was a BAD IDEA to use lauguage describing the details of this bill like "private security force/team/whatever"....That only draws uneducated (about guns in general, CHPs, and their holders) opinions from uneducated people.

Just my opinion....

 

[James Cannon]

Wouldn't a catholic church be considered a bar, anyways, for the booze that's served

 

[Duck Jenkins]

So, (not wanting to assume anything here) you believe that Louisiana being a "shall issue" state is a rotten idea because the Dept of Public Safety only issues these pieces of plastic to untrained wingnuts who've been authorized to get them by other wingnuts?


Please- humor me.

That is often the case and can be proved by post on this site. However, I did not say "Only" and I did say "often by other wing nuts". So that you do not have to assume, having plastic, and meeting the min standards, does not make you qualified to deal with a large scale sit, such as in a Church. It tends to prepare you more for a one on one.

I did not mean to offend you when I said "wing nut". Your next tin foil hat is on me, ok.

 

[CloudStrife]

That is often the case and can be proved by post on this site. However, I did not say "Only" and I did say "often by other wing nuts". So that you do not have to assume, having plastic, and meeting the min standards, does not make you qualified to deal with a large scale sit, such as in a Church. It tends to prepare you more for a one on one.

I did not mean to offend you when I said "wing nut". Your next tin foil hat is on me, ok.

The church shootings I've read about involved lone shooters, which is not a large scale situation. When the Zetas start taking whole churches hostage, then we'll need people with higher levels of training.

The piece of plastic is unconstitutional (US Constitution) by the way. There should be no requirements for carrying.