Brought my daughter today to the pediatrician. They are in the process of switching to an electronic records system. The nurse had us fill out new insurance info, no biggie. When we got in the examining room they start asking other questions... smoke detectors, pets, etc. about half way down she says 'you don't have to answer this one but are there any guns in the house'. I replied with 'none of your business', she laughed and said that they get that a lot...
Pediatrician visit and gun question
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Why on earth would they want you to secure it?
Why on earth would they want you to secure it?
They're not asking if any *unsecured* guns are in the house.
A good number of people consider "on a high shelf" as "secured"
Believe that was one state. Offhand, I think it was either Florida or Texas
Not to sound callous, but the horrible things that happened to those folks' family when they got hold of unsecured guns is squarely the gun owner's fault.
All guns should be locked up if not in use
That's my personal opinion.
It's also not what is being asked by doctors.
Yea, it was Flordia: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2011/06/shooting_pains.html
and then a Federal judge ruled it unconstitutional to enforce
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/14/florida-doctor-gun-law_n_962849.html
Never mind me...
and then a Federal judge ruled it unconstitutional to enforce
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/14/florida-doctor-gun-law_n_962849.html
Never mind me...
It can be an education issue. New parents don't always realize the resourcefulness of little kids. Same goes for asking about pools, poison, CO detectors, etc. I think it represents physician bias if they're asking only about firearms, but it's good practice to include firearms in the list of questions
it was one of Obama's executive orders after Sandy Hook.
"16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
Read more: http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/01/16/read-full-list-of-23-gun-violence-reduction-executive-actions/#ixzz2cSwrMHIC"
"16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
Read more: http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/01/16/read-full-list-of-23-gun-violence-reduction-executive-actions/#ixzz2cSwrMHIC"
nola.bugler
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Many times the questionnaires are standardized, oftentimes the only changes being the letterhead.
I tend to align myself with the idea that it's more to educate the patient or the patient's parents. I don't think it's a big conspiracy to identify and register gunowners for the government. The patient-physician relationship with respect to confidentiality still stands and cannot be broken except in very narrow circumstances. Examples are imminent danger to self or others, the latter as evidenced by Tarasoff v. Regents of the University of California in 1976.
The question may be broached in another way:
BTW, my doctor owns more guns than I do.
I tend to align myself with the idea that it's more to educate the patient or the patient's parents. I don't think it's a big conspiracy to identify and register gunowners for the government. The patient-physician relationship with respect to confidentiality still stands and cannot be broken except in very narrow circumstances. Examples are imminent danger to self or others, the latter as evidenced by Tarasoff v. Regents of the University of California in 1976.
The question may be broached in another way:
Doctor: Have you had thoughts about hurting yourself or hurting others?
Patient: Yes, I've thought about hurting myself, but I've been going through a rough patch in my life with my husband. They're just fleeting thoughts.
Doctor: I can certainly empathize with that and can offer whatever help you need if you like. Have you thought about how you would do it? Do you have any guns in the house?
etc. etc. etc.
Patient: Yes, I've thought about hurting myself, but I've been going through a rough patch in my life with my husband. They're just fleeting thoughts.
Doctor: I can certainly empathize with that and can offer whatever help you need if you like. Have you thought about how you would do it? Do you have any guns in the house?
etc. etc. etc.
BTW, my doctor owns more guns than I do.
kajuntriton
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I would agree with this statement if YOU can assure me when MR. BG comes through the front door he will give me adequate time to UNSECURE my SECURED protection!!
Legislate and regulate YOUR KIDS......NOT MY GUNS!!
It is as simple as awareness and training......
KT
Have it on your person. If you're going to bed, put it in a quick access safe. It won't take that much longer to access than it would from IWB carry or from your nightstand drawer. Or leave it on your bedroom dresser and lock your door at night. Plenty of reasonable solutions that keep your firearm at ready access and out of the hands of your kid
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You deserve the fascist state you will get. Unfortunately, the rest of us, who recognize this for what it is, will have to put up with it.
God, what has happened to this board?
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You're welcome to not answer the question or lie and say no, but bringing up various safety issues for individuals around kids is appropriate medical practice. Maybe the thimerosal or fluoride is just getting to my head though
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