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  • Suburbazine

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    I still don't see why you need a concealed PC, regardless of what you do for a living.

    Why do people need doctors? If you're not sick you don't need a doctor. When you're dead you still don't need a doctor. Since people clearly cannot get sick using your reasoning, doctors are unnecessary.

    If you can comprehend the logical fallacy in the notion of people not needing doctors, you can apply it to people not needing armor.

    Did I make the argument a little simpler?


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    JeeperCreeper

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    This is the shirt I picture needed to conceal plate carrier



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    You may need the PC if you go waltzing around the ghetto in that get up!
     

    JR1572

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    Wearing a PC under your clothes is overdoing it. Get some soft armor. My PC rides on my front seat. If I need it, I put it on. My soft armor is under my shirt.

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    DAVE_M

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    Wearing a PC under your clothes is overdoing it. Get some soft armor. My PC rides on my front seat. If I need it, I put it on. My soft armor is under my shirt.

    JR1572

    What about driving around with an AR in the trunk and radios for listening to encrypted police channels?
     

    Suburbazine

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    Blah Blah Blah

    What about driving around with an AR in the trunk and radios for listening to encrypted police channels?

    Sigh.

    You guys make me smile during a long day.

    And they're not encrypted. And I don't have that rig out while driving anyway. If they were encrypted that would imply I'm on the source chain for the AES-256 keys sent to the radios, which I'm not.


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    AustinBR

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    Sigh.

    You guys make me smile during a long day.

    And they're not encrypted
    . And I don't have that rig out while driving anyway. If they were encrypted that would imply I'm on the source chain for the AES-256 keys sent to the radios, which I'm not.


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    Yes.

    BRPD 1, 2, 3, Talk 2, Talk 3
    EBRS North, South
    BRVFD
    SGFD
    LSP
    MAP
    DPS

    I filter out everything else.


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    Aren't these encrypted?
     

    Suburbazine

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    Blah Blah Blah

    No. They're encoded by the APCO25 system (or known as P25 Phase II), which I can decode. If the agency feels like shelling out $400 extra for every single radio they issue, they can go encrypted.

    Most people will tell you they are encrypted because they don't understand how the digital system works.

    While I'm at it, I can get the CIU channels too. They really should encrypt those.

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    AustinBR

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    No. They're encoded by the APCO25 system (or known as P25 Phase II), which I can decode. If the agency feels like shelling out $400 extra for every single radio they issue, they can go encrypted.

    Most people will tell you they are encrypted because they don't understand how the digital system works.


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    So what do you listen to that is encrypted?
     

    Suburbazine

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    My personal radios if anything, which actually are encrypted. But that's more of an experiment than serving any useful purpose.


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    charlie12

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    Depends on the shirt, with my old uniform shirt wasn't too noticeable, but my new position I wear 5.11 polo's and it's crazy obvious I have a vest on. Every strap and seam is visible. That's with soft armor, too.

    I didn't know you have a new position. I don't feel safe out here now
     

    Suburbazine

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    You don't listen to encrypted because it's encrypted. What he's listening to is the 700mhz P25 stuff that anybody with the right scanner can listen to.

    Yes! Someone understands what I'm trying to say! I pull in a bunch of 800mhz stuff if I change control towers though.
     
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