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  • penguin

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    I'm torn. McCain has been a great leader, a great vet and has served our country well. I'm concerned that he will follow the lead of Bush. Before he ran for pres I even said I would vote for him as the pres. He was a moderate. A thinker. A respected man. I'm worried about him following the footsteps of Bush. Iraq needs to be solved, and that's a big issue with me. So talk to me. Tell me why the man that I agreed to vote for president years ago, I don't want to vote for now. Discuss my concerns. Teach me why he will not be the same old same old. If only the Senator had stayed the Senator while running. But I know politics make you do some ugly and non-normal things. To prove I'm serious, I'm posting the below:

    from http://marines.togetherweserved.com


    Unless you have some time to spare!


    OBAMA LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES as of April 16, 2008 (76 lies and counting)



    76) “I am the only candidate who isn’t taking a dime from Washington lobbyist” - LIAR- The record shows quite the opposite. According to USA Today, Obama’s campaign fundraising team includes 38 members of law firms that were paid $138 million last year to lobby the federal government, records show. Those lawyers, including 10 former federal lobbyists, have pledged to raise at least $3.5 million for the Illinois senator’s presidential race. Employees of their firms have given Obama’s campaign $2.26 million, a USA TODAY analysis of campaign finance data shows.



    Source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-04-15-obama_N.htm



    75) “I did not take money from oil companies” -LIAR- It is against the law to take money from oil companies. None of your opponents take money from oil companies either.



    74) “I did not recall meeting Nadhmi Auchi at any time or on any occasion” - LIAR - But a government witness said on Monday, during Antoin Rezko’s corruption trial, that he recalled seeing Sen. Barack Obama at a party that Rezko held in 2004 to honor Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born tycoon. Two other guests at the party declared the Obamas were present at the event, which took place one week before Obama won his U.S. Senate seat.



    Source: http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/rezko/894559,CST-NWS-rezko15.article



    according to the Chicago Tribune.

    73) Here is what Obama now said he meant about comment he made about Small town PA - “So I said, ‘Well, you know, when you’re bitter you turn to what you can count on,’ ” he continued. “So people they vote about guns, or they take comfort from their faith and their family and their community. And they get mad about illegal immigrants who are coming over to this country or they get frustrated about, you know, how things are changing. That’s a natural response.” - LIAR - See what Obama really meant in red. It does not take high school student to understand what Obama meant - “You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them…And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.



    72) Obama on Guns - when Obama ran for the Illinois state senate the political group, Independent Voters of Illinois (IVI), asked him if he supported a “ban [on] the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns” and he responded “yes.” - LIAR- But in what will probably be the most improbable change, the Politico reported on Saturday that Barack Obama was making a big play for gun votes in Pennsylvania. In 1998, another questionnaire administered by IL State Legislative National Political Awareness Test didn’t ask about banning all handguns, but it did find that Obama wanted to “ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons.” Source: Fox News and Politico.com
    71) Obama distort (aka “Lie”) about McCain saying, “McCain (he) is willing to send our troops too another war of 100 years in Iraq”. Obama also denied what he said on the video - LIAR - The video proves him absolutely untruthful (”a liar”).



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-cXV4Z2Hrg



    70) I did not campaign in Florida, (so Florida vote shouldn’t count) - LIAR -According to Boston Globe, HeraldTribune and other sites, Obama airs “ads” on Cable stations in Florida. Even with the Florida cable ads, Obama still lost.



    From heraldtribune.com Obama’s Florida ads bust pledge


    See the Video here http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/01/obama_airs_nati.html



    69) “I stopped smoking. I stopped smoking. I haven’t had a cigarette since I quit - LIAR - But in his own words, here is what Obama said. Except….last night on MSNBC’s Hardball, Obama admitted that his attempt to wean himself from the vile tobacco weed had not been entirely successful. I fell off the wagon a couple times during the course of it, and then was able to get back on,” he said. “But it is a struggle like everything else.”



    Source ABC News: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/obama-is-smokin.html



    68) Look at my education record in Illinois - LIAR - In reality, Obama never really championed the local councils. He supported them behind the scenes and only eventually came out publicly on their behalf. When he did weigh in, he came down on the wrong side of the debate—against protecting principals from unwarranted dismissals and in favor of keeping councils independent, no matter what. In the end, the resolution of the conflict between the two sides didn’t alleviate anyone’s concerns. Instead, it prolonged a turf battle that seems to have dragged down academic progress in the years since. Read more here http://www.slate.com/id/2188010?wpisrc=newsletter
    Source: slate.com



    Source: ABC News: Buried in Eloquence, Obama Contradictions About Pastor



    67) “I don’t think my church is actually particularly controversial,” Obama said at a community meeting in Nelsonville, Ohio, earlier this month. - LIAR - But yesterday, he told a different story. “Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes,” he said in his speech yesterday in Philadelphia.



    66) I did not take money from oil companies: - LIAR - [03/31/2008]



    THE FACTS: True enough, Obama does not take money from oil companies. No candidate does. It is illegal for corporations to give money to politicians. Corporations, however, do have political action committees that collect voluntary donations from employees and then donate them to candidates. Obama doesn’t take money from PACs. He also doesn’t take money from lobbyists.



    But he does accept money from executives and other employees of oil companies and two of his fundraisers are oil company executives. As of Feb. 29, Obama’s presidential campaign had received nearly $214,000 from oil and gas industry employees and their families, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. Clinton had received nearly $307,000 from industry workers and their families and Republican Sen. John McCain, the likely GOP presidential nominee, received nearly $394,000, according to the center’s totals.



    Two of Obama’s fundraisers are Robert Cavnar, the chairman and chief executive of Houston-based Mission Resources Corp., and George Kaiser, the president and CEO of Tulsa-based Kaiser-Francis Oil Co. Source: Associated press via Yahoo News



    65) I did NOT play the race card: - LIAR - [03/31/2008] Obama was the first to play the race card. According to Phialdelphia Inquirer, Quietly, the storm over the hateful views expressed by Sen. Barack Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, has blown away the most insidious myth of the Democratic primary campaign. Obama and his surrogates have charged that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has deliberately and cleverly played the race card in order to label Obama the “black” candidate. Read more here



    64) I played greater role in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion - LIAR - [03/31/2008] It was found that Obama — the day after sitting for the interview — filed an amended version of the questionnaire, which appears to contain Obama’s own handwritten notes added to one answer. Read Obama had greater role on liberal survey



    63.) I have the best plan to cure the Mortgage Crisis - LIAR. [03/30/2008] You and your campaign buddy Penny SubPrime Bank Collapse Prizker have had your little fingers full of subprime cash - Obama has taken $1,180,103 from the top issuers of subprime loans: Obama received $266,907 from Lehman, $5395 from GMAC, $150,850 from Credit Suisse First Boston, $11,250 from Countrywide, $9052 from Washington Mutual, $161,850 from Citigroup, $4600 from CBASS, $170,050 from Morgan Stanley, $1150 from Centex, and last but certainly NOT LEAST - Obama received $351,900 from Goldman Sachs. I am sure that cash all came from folks who knew the subprime loan they had was a dream, eh?
     

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    Scroll down for more 1 - 62 (We are working on updating the source of the stories)



    1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. Source: hotair.com



    2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government. Source: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message504435/pg1



    3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had Source:http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/01/obamas-oginga-o.html



    4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades. Source:http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/01/obamas-oginga-o.html



    5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man. Source: According to NYTimes story of April of last year, Sarah Hussein Obama told the New York Times she is a devout Muslim.



    6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.



    7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.



    8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).



    9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.



    10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.



    11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.



    12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.



    13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.



    14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.



    15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.



    16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.



    17.) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.



    18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.



    19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.



    20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn’t write it,introduce it, change it, or create it. <!–noadsense–>



    21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.



    22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.



    23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.



    24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.



    25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
     

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    26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.



    27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.



    28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.



    29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.



    30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.



    31.) I Didn’t Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.



    32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn’t.



    33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.



    34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.



    35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.



    36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself.



    37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.



    38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.



    39.) I Don’t Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.



    40.) I don’t Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.



    41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.



    42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.



    43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other people’s words.



    44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.



    45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.



    46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it.



    47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.



    48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won’t wear a flag pin and you don’t put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.



    49.) My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR, your wife’s words follow lock-step in the vein of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.



    50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn’t Support - LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quater of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.



    51.) Treehouse Is A Small Company - LIAR, the CEO of Treehouse last year, made more than the CEO of Wal-Mart, according to public records.



    52.) University Of Chicago Hospital Pay Is Fair - LIAR, your wife’s pay raise was nearly 150% her already bloated rate and the hospital is a Non-Profit Hospital, which made $100,000,000 in the last 3 years. They overcharge blacks VS whites for services, and overcharge everyone in general by 538%!



    53.)I Barely Know Rezko - Only 5 Billed Hours - LIAR, you have known him for 17 years, and decided to do a real estate deal with him during a time when he was proven to be under investigation. Despite this, you divided your property and had them take off $300K before the mortgage problems started. Then Rezko’s wife buys the lot beside it that you can’t afford, saving you $625,000.



    54.) My Donations Have Been Checked Thoroughly - LIAR, you only gave back Hsu ($72K) and Rezko (first $66K, then when caught lying $86K, then when caught lying again $150K and now caught lying YET AGAIN OBAMA, it’s $250k) their money when publically called on their involvement in your campaigns.



    55.) My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church - LIAR, your church is so extreme, the pastor who married you, Rev. Wright, just got done blaming the US for 9/11 and named Louis Farrahkan their person of the year.



    56.) I Disagree With My Church All The Time - LIAR, you still have yet to repudiate Wright, who married you and your wife, and you still donate large sums of money to assist the church in furthering its message - hatred and revenge. You donated in 2006 alone, $22,500 to the church that you so terribly disagree with. That is nearly $500 PER WEEK - that sure is disagreement, Senator Obama.



    57.) I Have Clean Connections Despite Rezko - LIAR, you are not only connected to Exelon and Rezko, you are also connected to Hillary PAC supporter Mr. Hsu, AND an Iraqi Billionaire of ill repute, Nadhmi Auchi, who ripped off people in the Food For Oil, Iraqi deal. Seems Mr. Auchi may have helped Obama buy his million dollar property long before Obama had millions of dollars. Wonder what favors Mr. Auchi expects, when Obama leaves Iraq free to be taken over by special interests such as him.



    58.) I never heard sermons like Rev. Wright’s, that have been in videos all day, You Tube - LIAR! 3 days later during your Mea Culpa BS speech you said “Did I hear controversial statements while I sat in that church? Yes I did.”



    59.) The Passport Invasion is a conspiracy to find dirt on me! - LIAR. Your own Campaign Foreign Policy Advisor is the CEO of the company that looked into your records. PS - You had them look into yours to hide the fact you looked into Clinton’s and McCain’s more than a year before!



    60.) Rev. Meeks has nothing to do with my campaigning - LIAR. Rev. Meeks appeared in ads for your Senate Campaign, donated to you, and helped raise money, then AND NOW. PS - He also seems to despise America.



    61.) My wife didn’t mean America is ignorant, she was just using a phrase - LIAR. Again, MicHELLe’s comments perfectly sync with Wright’s, Meeks’, and Farrakhans, both in language, anger, and direction.



    62.) I am very Anti-Terror - LIAR. [03/30/2008] One of your good pals is long time radical and terrorist William Ayers, with whom you have been seen in the last 12 months and who has helped the now jailed khalidi, Professor at Columbia who invited Ahmadinejad to the University, to raise money for Palestinian terrorism attacks against Israel. PS - Your church published a pro Hamas Manifesto - guess you weren’t there on THAT Sunday either? How lucky for you.






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    Bearco

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    Although I do not feel McCain is the best man for the job, I do feel he is the only option. I do not agree with him on many issues. You can see where he stands, and where his vote has gone at http://www.ontheissues.org/john_mccain.htm. One thing you can be sure of, there is no way republicans will be in control of the house/senate come November. Right now we still have someone that can put a stop to nonsense. This could be more important than the next president. If Obama has the final say, there is no telling what new government that we will see. Who we choose will also have the opportunity to put a judge that respects the constitution into the Supreme Court, possible two judges. I believe that McCain will do this. I do not believe that Obama will choose anyone that reads the constitution for what it is. Always remember, it was put in place to limit the power that our government has on us, not the control on us. Our government has proved time after time that they are the worst possible managers with anything given to them. I own a small business (very small). If I am forced to pay the same taxes that I would have under the Clinton's, it will put me out of business. I have people close to me right now, trying to put cutbacks in place because of our government's regulations on prices that are coming up in January. They are unsure how they are going to make it, before looking at tax increases. There is so much of their business that they will be losing money on just to continue to provide a necessary service to our citizens. People complain about gas prices, have you noticed that they have doubled since democrats took control of our congress? Why would they change anything that they stand to lose millions on? They are highly invested in oil and the like. How do our congressman and senators go in making little, and then become millionaires while doing a public service job? Do your research, find the facts. Do not ever just vote for someone b/c you were told to. Hey, I want change too; I just do not want that kind of change. Now I think I am just ranting.
     

    penguin

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    You're not ranting, Bam is ranting...lol I don't like the current education policies (no funding), civil rights invasions with the WOT and the money being spent on WOT and not at home. So far, Obama has the right words for me, but on some issues he is just too far left. I wish we can have a centrist in the race, but Dr. Paul is out. Not that it matters, our votes don't count...
     

    casey70634

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    I voted for Ron Paul, but until the money backs someone like him, things will NEVER change from the status quo! (no matter what figurehead is in the office)
     

    tactical723

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    Here is the way I look at it, the left wing media and Dems will do whatever it takes to get Obama in, the lie that I can't stand is that McCain is automatically going to take over and create a "Bush Term 3" and labeled him a warmonger, he loves war and do whatever it takes to keep troops in foreign wars. The is absolutely ridiculous, he personally knows the hardship of what war can do to our country's young and our country's morale. The media also fails to mention that he has 2 sons in active service, 1 serving in Iraq, the other training to head that way. I could not think of any father that would want war so bad that his sons could be put in harm's way. The media also distort's his military service and POW record, also his wife, Cindy, is not a racist, like Michelle Obama, who was the one who forced Barack to convert to Christianity and join the subject racist church. Cindy McCain, has been involved in non-profits and volunteers groups her entire adult life for no salary, media fails to mention this fact as well, she is a classy lady. Michelle Obama has stated on camera on several occasions that she will finally proud to be an American when it can be changed by her husband. McCain is honest as far as I know, family man, respected by both parties and first and foremost a decorated veteran, as far as I am concerned, all presidential candidates should have served, period, I am sure he does have faults, I doubt he would follow Bush's lead, because his staff, SNAFU'd the last 4 to 6 years, McCain is also not an oil man and not connected to all of Cheney's cronies,

    Of course the McCains are not perfect people, none of us are, but they are not wolves hiding in sheeps clothing, like the Obamas, the media are communist, left winged, single sided profited oriented agenda seeking groupies trying to elect the anti-Christ,



    and thats all I got to say about that!!!!
     
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    LACamper

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    I don't agree with many things Mccain says. He's too far left on many issues, too centrist on others. Too big government also...
    However, Obama is a racist, Islamic, lying anti-American that would be the absolute worst person to put into office right now. I'd be less worried about Hillary taking over. I'd take a Kennedy in office instead. Hell, I'd take Paris Hilton or Britney Spears instead...

    I'm worried about the pending race riots that will happen when he takes over. I'm worried about the race riots that will happen when someone takes a shot at him (it will happen). I'm worried about the sudden influx of Islamic terrorist that will come also. I'm worried about him meeting with terrorist. I'm worried about him granting citizenship to enough Mexicans to bankrupt the country. I'm worried about him caving to the UN and giving up our 2A rights.
    Should I keep going?
     

    Swampy

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    HUH????

    I thought I hated Obama and Penguin liked him????/



    Now I am really confused... I have to find a Socialist or a Marxist , or maybe a Commie to quote in my sig....:confused:







    I dont like Obama cause Rush Limbaugh told me he sucked... Who needs a better reason than that??? :rofl::rofl:
     

    W1nds0rF0x

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    I havn't read through all of these yet, but #75 and #66 are duplicates, both about accepting money from oil companies. #66 is better, so I'd remove #75 or replace it with something new.
     

    jajbs920

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    I don't understand...Is this the BHO that the "penguin" supports? I've been reading old posts and came across this one. The "Small Waddling Bird" posted this and still likes BHO? Am I missing something?? I'm new, so I'm thinking that I haven't read enough posts to see the logic behind the SWB's comments. Can someone help me understand????
     

    penguin

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    My discussion was that I'm not a kool-aid drinker. I posted those for y'all to use, not me. I didn't research any so I don't know the veracity behind them.
     

    Swampy

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    He did it just to mess with our heads...

    He is a very , very sneaky character this Penguin....

    I have his phone bugged and a spy satelite trained on his house watching his every move....
    :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     

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    I dont like Obama, and Im not crazy about McCain.

    For both parties I think the VP candidates offer more charisma, and possibility than the Pres. nominees in my humble opinion.

    And I like Palin more so than Biden.

    But honestly, I feel I am voting not for who I have faith in, but which party is currently the lessor of the two evils.

    It leaves a bad feeling in my gut to once again be doing this, but its what is offered.
     
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