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  • Mjolnir

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    Yep. People don't understand dogs and do unsafe things around them because they see you correcting YOUR dog.

    Make a mistake with one of the Livestock Guardian Breeds and the same error with the Pit Bulldog and I have money on the Sheep/Cattle breeds to show aggression first. They are HERDERS & GUARDIANS (thus "nippers" and BITERS) by centuries of selective breeding.

    It's the nature of the beasts.

    To allow a CHILD unsupervised access to ANY DOG is just asking for trouble because they are *NOT* Alpha to the dog as you would/should be. They cannot be expected to be able to correct the dog for some of the things that come naturally to dogs. And they probably cannot get away with trying to dominate the dog. Usually, a dog will merely try to get away from the child. This will encourage the child to continue it's behavior. Once tired the dog will usualy lie down. Here comes the child and the "check" aint far behind... That's a "bite" to you if you're the parent and definitely is a bite from the perspective of the child.

    A dumb thing to expect to end anyway but badly.

    Quick anecdotal story about dumb ass dog owner behavior. An ex-co-worker had a wife and two kids that weren't well disciplined from my perspective. He got an English Bulldog from his sister or friend, I don't recall. It was around a year old an very rambunctious playing by himself. He was very gentle with me, pretty gentle with his new owner and the wife didn't interact with it much.

    Well, the older kid agitated the **** out of the dog. I could see it. They could not. I mentioned it twice over a 4 hour period and it went ignored. He would snatch things from the dog and constantly tease the dog when the parents weren't being attentive. As we were pouring a wine I heard the dog growl and walked into the other room and the kid was standing straight as a rail, eyes wide open. I told them and they called the kid, told him to sit down. Did nothing with the dog.

    Three days later they had to give the pup back to the original owner. Why? Because they could not trust their ill-mannered, horribly disciplined kid around the dog.

    So I reiterate: only a damned foolhardy person would allow a kid unrestrained and unsupervised access to a dog.
     
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    marshjo

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    Excellent Point Jay.

    I had that very same conversation a few years ago with a young man. Always talking about how bad ass his Pit was :blah:

    Then when we were harping on him about how the breed has a reputation etc. etc. he blurted out, "well a few months back(yea right I was thinking :rolleyes: ) my uncles Weimaraner bit me on the leg..yata yata"

    I said the same as you Jay, "And what if it would have been your Pit"?

    He says "**** that MotherFer would have eaten the **** out of my......aww ****, I see what you're saying there mayne, damn dog, you got me there"

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    Im going to call ********. Mainly because ghetto speaking people dont have weimaraners...
     

    marshjo

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    That is what worries me the most about them. Can they be good dogs? Yes but does every good dog have the potential to snap? Yes. The problem again is how much damage a weiner dog could do compared to a dog (byb pitbull/bull) breed for its short fuse and bite force/ablity to maul?

    Case in point this one saved someones life. http://news.yahoo.com/video/oddnews...y-pulling-her-from-train-tracks-29258520.html

    I don't fear my friends two pitbulls although i know i can not let my guard down either. The potentiol to kill or seriously injure somebody is there. I have seen the results of such injuries first hand and they are nothing to have a pissing match over if the breed is a good dog or not. The two i know are good dogs. Can i trust them to never possibly hurt someone? I can't and I am not looking to change anybodies mind on the matter seeing the results puts it in perspective.



    In the quote you posted in response I said the numbers were few and far between. If you could find over a hundred that are in service I would be surprised. Don't troll and not read the whole post...

    Not a troll, but do correct people when they are wrong. Too many people rely on the ******** they read or hear to have ignorance spread by your comment.
     

    marshjo

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    Well he didn't bonehead, it was his UNCLE.

    I mean we all know our nephews are exact replicas of ourselves right? :rolleyes:

    Haha! Why call names??
    I caught that boss. And we all know that our nephews don't exaggerate about how badass their posessions are too huh?
    This goes back to a bad owner makes a bad dog..

    Bottom line, you are listening to the news way too much. You are talking about a mixed breed dog with pitbull in it vs. pitbull owners talking about a true bloodline.

    You cant call all dogs with pit in them a pitbull, otherwise your lab is a pitbull.


    I think this thread is kind of like a atheist trying to tell a christian why his belief is stupid...
     
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    Hitman

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    B/c it was a bonehead thing to say based on you misreading or assuming too much. :p

    I know them both. He didn't know that at the time and the uncle does indeed own two weimaraners

    You cant call all dogs with pit in them a pitbull, otherwise your lab is a pitbull.

    That doesn't make any sense. Are you saying my Lab has Pit Bull Terrier in him? :confused:

    Also statistics on dog bites isn't news, it's just information.

    About what term is used is irrelevant. Pit Bull Terriers still own the highest number of bites/attacks.

    So who cares if it's a mix, when the root breed (Pit Bull Terriers) is most likely the leaning genetic factor in the dog's willingness to snap.

    Would you deny that fact by saying a Pit/Lab might be more prone to bite b/c of the Lab in him?
     
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    http://www.aspcabehavior.org/articles/57/Dog-Bite-Prevention-.aspx

    ASPCA - Dog Bite Prevention...

    Bottom of page...

    A case in point is the so-called “pit bull.” This term is loosely used to describe four breeds of dog: the American pit bull terrier, the American Staffordshire terrier, the Staffordshire bull terrier and the bull terrier. Because these breeds, and mixes of these breeds, are hard for people to identify, any short-haired, medium-sized dog with a wider-than-average jaw who’s involved in an aggressive incident can be labeled a “pit bull.” It’s not uncommon for newspaper stories about aggressive “pit bulls” to be accompanied by photos of boxers, bullmastiffs and even Boston terriers.

    Third, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which conducted a 20-year study that listed the breeds involved in fatal attacks, there’s currently no accurate way to identify the total number of dogs of a particular breed and, consequently, there’s no measure to determine which breeds are more likely to bite or kill. In fact, the CDC says its own 20-year study is not an appropriate tool for making breed-specific policies or legislative decisions. Instead, the CDC advocates “dangerous dog” laws that focus on individual dogs of any breed who have shown aggressive behavior.

    There are no accurate numbers or statistics...
     

    Hitman

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    A case in point is the so-called “pit bull.” This term is loosely used to describe four breeds of dog: the American pit bull terrier, the American Staffordshire terrier, the Staffordshire bull terrier and the bull terrier.

    Yep, no common denominator there ;)

    There are no accurate numbers or statistics...

    But plenty of Bites and Attacks collected where from medical facilities where patients described the dog.

    Common Denominator in this breed is very noticeable on appearance for most competent people without any dog knowledge. It's enough that common sense should prevail for the average person. Instead of saying ‘Pit’ they say should say ‘Bull Terrier’ or ‘Staffordshire Bull Terrier’? Meh, all cut from the same branch.

    This is getting old.
     

    Hattrick 22

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    Not a troll, but do correct people when they are wrong. Too many people rely on the ******** they read or hear to have ignorance spread by your comment.

    I didn't read or hear any of this...

    The little girl i am talking about i helped work on her in the operating room... if you read all of the posts i put out you would know this...

    She had over 30 total lacerations to her body. One of them nearly severed her saphenous vein(vein used when doing bypasses harvested from your leg) not to mention removed a huge portion of her muscle above the back of her knee. She also had a deep gash on her cheek how they didn't take her eye out is still amazing to me. The other lacerations were on her arms, face and legs from trying to kick them off of her and trying to protect herself from the two dogs attacking her i.e. defensive wounds.

    The two dogs were pitbulls. Were they registered probably not were the owners pos people from the looks of the pictures on the news probably so. The owners of the dogs left the girl in the back yard (where the dogs pulled her while mauling her) to put the dogs away so they wouldn't get in trouble instead of helping the girl etc.

    There are a **** ton of variables if the dogs are registered are the owners responsible did the dogs get triggered by a girl riding a bicycle (probably chasing her for all i know)... At the end of it does it really flippin matter? In other words would you defend the dog for just being a dog or the owner when it does something instinctively? Or hell would you even care about any of the above if it was one of your loved ones?

    I am not trying to bash the breed or the owners i shared what i posted. Biased as it may be due to what i have seen etc. Still know pitbulls still love on the ones my buddy owns. I even posted a link to a pitbull story of one saving someone’s life. Maybe its a mutt or akc registered didn't look that far into it... does it matter if it is or not? Actions speak louder than words imo.
     
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    There are some stupid assed conclusions in this thread by people who repeatedly reveal that they do not know dogs, in general, and bulldog breeds, in particular.

    We should ban "black rifles" because they are made to kill; same with all those "hi cap clips". Those are assault clips and have no place in society.

    That's the paper thin argument that passes as logic on this subject.
     

    Charles1959

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    At the risk of being bashed and / or repeating what someone else has already put out there.... (cause I ain't gonna read 5 pages of pit bull posts). I can't recall hearing about any 'unprovoked' attacks by any breed other than the Bull Terrier breeds. Not Dobermans, not Shephards, not even the notorious Chow-Chows (which I have owned). Nor have I seen any other canine breed rip the front bumper off a car other than the Bull/Terrier breed(s). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g94oakxE9Sw
    I love dogs, had mutts and others all my life. If a Pit Bull comes in my yard , around my family or pets, I'll put him the f*** down. And ask questions later or not at all.
    Too much temperament to chance it. Screw 'em
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    To answer the question about owning a Pit and being "scared" of it. I do not fear my dog but just like a chain saw or gun I respect the potential for damage if not handled properly.

    I'd call that healthy respect as well-- and rightly so, for a dog with an obviously aggressive/working bloodline, and training + practice at being aggressive towards other living things (regardless of size, shape or leg count).
     

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    There are some stupid assed conclusions in this thread by people who repeatedly reveal that they do not know dogs, in general, and bulldog breeds, in particular.

    We should ban "black rifles" because they are made to kill; same with all those "hi cap clips". Those are assault clips and have no place in society.

    That's the paper thin argument that passes as logic on this subject.

    You just compared an inanimate object to an animate object. Pretty sure that’s where logic would break down for the average person.

    I also think people don't need to be experts on dogs to come to the conclusion that this;

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    Might pose more of a threat than this;

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    Don't mix my words or assume pass them please. I know exactly what I'm saying and it is indeed a very logically sound conclusion on the side of safety.
     

    Mjolnir

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    You just compared an inanimate object to an animate object. Pretty sure that’s where logic would break down for the average person.

    I also think people don't need to be experts on dogs to come to the conclusion that this;

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    Might pose more of a threat than this;

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    Don't mix my words or assume pass them please. I know exactly what I'm saying and it is indeed a very logically sound conclusion on the side of safety.

    No, my logic was "spot on".

    All I could say about the pics is that the Staff has FAR MORE POTENTIAL being a more physical specimen than the second photo.

    BTW, a Rottweiler is more physically robust than any Pit Bull so maybe we should vent at them even more.

    And since ANYONE WITH ANY DOG KNOWLEDGE KNOWS LIVESTOCK GUARDIANS ARE MUCH MORE PRONE TO BITE HUMANS they should be banned from this hemisphere and be enforced by NATO.
     

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    There are some stupid assed conclusions in this thread by people who repeatedly reveal that they do not know dogs, in general, and bulldog breeds, in particular.

    We should ban "black rifles" because they are made to kill; same with all those "hi cap clips". Those are assault clips and have no place in society.

    That's the paper thin argument that passes as logic on this subject.

    Except that rifles are incapable of killing people for no reason.

    A better example is black people. They have a similar unknown trigger with a history of unprovoked violence.
     
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