What's your opinion of Bikers splitting traffic?

[Jack]

What ever makes you happy buttercup

Someone sounds butthurt...

I've come up on people to pass between them and a car riding adjacent in the left lane and when they noticed me coming they would hit the brakes trying to stop me from passingllike I said it is what it isn't and they all are going to keep doing what they're doing and I'll keep doing what I do.

That still isn't brake checking you, that is not letting you by.

I'm thinking about turning the 929 into a dedicated track bike and leaving the streets alone, I ve done theodds long enough.

If youre crying about people not letting you by now, I cant wait to see how angry you'll be racing... you know... where people intentionally cut each other off and try to not let each other by.

But when one of those ego tistical drivers rage out

Do you mean something like throwing pennies?

and actually kill someone on a scooter I hope they go jailing enough to get a cockmeat sandwich and they can sit back and ask themselves was it really worth not letting him pass.

And the guy on the bike can think, was it really worth it to try and stroke my own ego, or to avoid that one drop of sweat?

Good night assholes

Yep, defiantly butthurt.

That said. My personal opinion of lane splitting is there is a reason for the stripes on the highway. They are to divide lanes. When you chose to use the highway in a way it was not intended and it puts your health at risk that is one thing. When it endangers my family or my health that is another. I'm not anti biker. Just anti endangering peoples health.

This has been pretty much everyone's stance in this thread, who is against it. I'm just amazed that people get bike hater out of that.

Here is one of the main reasons why I don't think it should be done.



I dont know if the person in the van was cutting him off intentionally or not(but i'm sure we all know what veed will think). That said, it doesn't matter if the person in the van acted intentionally. You are in a weak position and you are placing your safety in the hands of other people. I find it funny that people are so willing to do that on a gun forum, where self defense is usually a common theme.

 

[Hitman]

Well let's state the obvious.

He was obviously going too fast or he would have been able to handle out of that scenario. The guy in the OP Video could have stopped in time before something like that happen.

She looked like she was going to get in behind the Ford with the HUGE 4 Car Gap that was there. She looks in her rear view mirror, see's the gap, turns around maybe see's the gap still, puts blinker on and moves over.

She did what was lawful for a lane change.

Kind of hard to see a Motorcycle sifting through the lanes in traffic at a high rate of speed.

Still I would say that this guy is outside what the current bikers here think should be allowed. Right?

 

[Sugarbug]

Well let's state the obvious.

He was obviously going too fast or he would have been able to handle out of that scenario. The guy in the OP Video could have stopped in time before something like that happen.

She looked like she was going to get in behind the Ford with the HUGE 4 Car Gap that was there. She looks in her rear view mirror, see's the gap, turns around maybe see's the gap still, puts blinker on and moves over.

She did what was lawful for a lane change.

Kind of hard to see a Motorcycle sifting through the lanes in traffic at a high rate of speed.

Still I would say that this guy is outside what the current bikers here think should be allowed. Right?

First of all... it was an asian driving...

Secondly, that was an illegal lane change as he went through a solid white and two solid yellows from the carpool lane. The rider was going far too fast though.

 

[USMC-Deano]

Aimed towards the original question:

I voted that we should be allowed to open our doors and smack them. ONLY because it is illegal for them to split traffic here. When I lived in Cali, I really didn't have a problem with it, because they were legally allowed to do so, and I never had an incident of getting tagged by a biker, so it did not bother me. However, I am one for following traffic laws as closely as possible(not necessarily on the speed aspect, but everything else; hypocrisy, I know), and as long as it is illegal in LA, it should not be done.

I say this MOSTLY for one reason: The bikers in Cali have been doing it for a while, therefore, they are accustomed to doing this. In LA, bikers are NOT accustomed to it, and are much more likely to cause me to want to chase them down and beat them for wrecking their bike into my car.

 

[Hitman]

First of all... it was an asian driving...
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Oh! I knew sum-ting was wong!

were going to hell....

 

[Sugarbug]

Oh! I knew sum-ting was wong!

were going to hell....

At least we'll have some good company.

 

[vern10mm]

First of all... it was an asian driving...

Secondly, that was an illegal lane change as he went through a solid white and two solid yellows from the carpool lane. The rider was going far too fast though.

this, but it was a perfect example of why lane splitting is a bad idea.

 

[Mjolnir]

Dangerous thing to do as most people drive their automobiles "with their head under their arm".

I ADORE superbikes but the way people use the road (EVERYPLACE I've lived and traveled) is appalling.

In Cali this is legal but perhaps drivers are somewhat expecting them. If I were in Cali on a motorcycle in rush hour traffic (NOT!) I'd travel slowly between vehicles. What I've seen was 20 mph through stopped traffic. Yikes!

 

[headspace]

and are much more likely to cause me to want to chase them down and beat them for wrecking their bike into my car.

dude, if they wreck their bike into your car, I don't think you'll have to chase them. But smacking them with your car door would just cost you a car door. And maybe a gunshot wound or three.

 

[JadeRaven]

All this debating is meaningless unless you're a traffic engineer

 

[Trachito]

Not that you will but the whole "I'm hot", "I don't have A/C" double standard argument was bought up a while back and was left unaddressed.

No one forced you to ride in the heat without A/C. It was your free choice to do so. So you can't use it to argue that you now can break the law b/c your hot. You chose to be hot, suck it up.

it wasn't left unaddressed. Nola_Jack addressed me and I agreed with him but put up my POV on why we should be allowed to do it.

 

[Trachito]

Buttercup, the thing is 'WE' feel the same way about those types of 'Cagers'.

However that is NOT what this thread is about. It's not about 'Cagers' trying to kill bikers in a Road Rage fit.

It's about bikers who Lane Split>At a Red Light/Traffic Jam> When Vehicles are at a dead stop>LIKE THE OP Video.

Not passing, Not Lane Splitting at the speed limit, Not everyday riding or any other reason you guys can come up with to hate cagers even more. Just exactly like is seen in the OP Video.

I think that's why this thread got so far off track. The hate for cagers and the joke poll option threw it that way.

I'm sorry for the Joking Option, (And explained how it came to be) but eitherway it's just as easily a vote for the guy on the bike in the vid being an ******* for doing it(If he were doing it in Louisiana). and it's the opinion of whoever voted and obviously shows that it REALLY pisses people off. Of course I'm sure some folks actually got that it was a joke and voted that option accordingly.

I know I used to vote for whatever extreme annswer option Nolacopusmc would put in his many random polls LOL!

Anyway there's no way I can participate today as much as I did yesterday, it's been fun though.

Cheers!

i thought you just meant splitting in general, whether moving in traffic or not. the guy in the original vid was fine. the guy who wrecked in the vid was going to fast, IMO.

Well let's state the obvious.

He was obviously going too fast or he would have been able to handle out of that scenario. The guy in the OP Video could have stopped in time before something like that happen.

She looked like she was going to get in behind the Ford with the HUGE 4 Car Gap that was there. She looks in her rear view mirror, see's the gap, turns around maybe see's the gap still, puts blinker on and moves over.

She did what was lawful for a lane change.

Kind of hard to see a Motorcycle sifting through the lanes in traffic at a high rate of speed.

Still I would say that this guy is outside what the current bikers here think should be allowed. Right?

right.

 

[03protege]

The van absolutely should not have cut over there but that is what you have to deal with when your flying up lanes of traffic where nothing else is moving.

There are terrible drivers out there and doing things like this is only going to uncover them faster, I think we can all agree on that.

 

[headspace]

the van absolutely should not have cut over there but that is what you have to deal with when your flying up lanes of traffic where nothing else is moving.

There are terrible drivers out there and doing things like this is only going to uncover them faster, i think we can all agree on that.

for the win!!

 

[edrodhdfb]

I ride a Harley and its not water cooled so I'm sorry if it angers some people but in the summer heat I'm going to split traffic. I do it careful and just a little faster than the traffic itself. I've yet to be honked at, cut off, or flipped off so I guess I'm doing it respectfully enough to get a pass so far. I don't see a problem unless the biker is being reckless.

 

[vern10mm]

I ride a Harley and its not water cooled so I'm sorry if it angers some people but in the summer heat I'm going to split traffic. I do it careful and just a little faster than the traffic itself. I've yet to be honked at, cut off, or flipped off so I guess I'm doing it respectfully enough to get a pass so far. I don't see a problem unless the biker is being reckless.

Since your in LA, maybe someone else will intentionally break the law and you will get clipped soon and learn to respect the law instead of consciously breaking it....sorry if it angers some people.

i mean if you can choose which laws you want to obey and for what reasons, can't we all?

I feel it is the kind of attitude you display here that makes the overall driving experience in this state horrible. you seem to think your Harley and your comfort somehow trumps other people. If you are that concerned, perhaps you should make a different choice in conveyance that you feel comfortable following the laws.

Or how about run for the legislation and change the law to allow lane splitting and then educate people about the change so everyone is safer and you do not have to worry about your Harley over heating.

Sometimes working with the system gets things done instead of constantly fighting or working against it.

 

[sonanth]

3 different bikers did it to me today on 2 different streets. 2 separate incidents. And the first guy almost got pushed off the road when he decided to squeeze between me and the guy in an SUV in front of him who was sliding over into my lane to get in front of me.

 

[vern10mm]

3 different bikers did it to me today on 2 different streets. 2 separate incidents. And the first guy almost got pushed off the road when he decided to squeeze between me and the guy in an SUV in front of him who was sliding over into my lane to get in front of me.

I bet if you asked him, he would say something like:

I ride a Harley and its not water cooled so I'm sorry if it angers some people but in the summer heat I'm going to split traffic. I do it careful and just a little faster than the traffic itself. ...... so I guess I'm doing it respectfully enough to get a pass so far. I don't see a problem unless the biker is being reckless.

 

[Sugarbug]

Since your in LA, maybe someone else will intentionally break the law and you will get clipped soon and learn to respect the law instead of consciously breaking it....sorry if it angers some people.

i mean if you can choose which laws you want to obey and for what reasons, can't we all?

I feel it is the kind of attitude you display here that makes the overall driving experience in this state horrible. you seem to think your Harley and your comfort somehow trumps other people. If you are that concerned, perhaps you should make a different choice in conveyance that you feel comfortable following the laws.

Or how about run for the legislation and change the law to allow lane splitting and then educate people about the change so everyone is safer and you do not have to worry about your Harley over heating.

Sometimes working with the system gets things done instead of constantly fighting or working against it.

So this means you go to the speed limit at all times, right?

 

[vern10mm]

So this means you go to the speed limit at all times, right?

Here, let me help you...

Originally Posted by vern10mm
Since your in LA, maybe someone else will intentionally break the law and you will get clipped soon and learn to respect the law instead of consciously breaking it....sorry if it angers some people.

i mean if you can choose which laws you want to obey and for what reasons, can't we all?

I feel it is the kind of attitude you display here that makes the overall driving experience in this state horrible. you seem to think your Harley and your comfort somehow trumps other people. If you are that concerned, perhaps you should make a different choice in conveyance that you feel comfortable following the laws.

Or how about run for the legislation and change the law to allow lane splitting and then educate people about the change so everyone is safer and you do not have to worry about your Harley over heating.

Sometimes working with the system gets things done instead of constantly fighting or working against it.

Yes, i do speed, because I have been stopped and ticketed for it, but I do not intentionally speed or decide where I need to go is more important than other people getting there safely as well.

There is a difference between lapses in judgement or attention and deliberately breaking the law and "sorry if it angers people".