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  • jmcrawf1

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    Got to go with the handgun for the killshot, most likely the other standard issue pistol of the SEALS, a suppressed H&K M23 Mod O .45 Cal. SOCOM considering the nature of the mission and the need for the heavier round against enemies who would be most likely armed with larger caliber assault rifles. Yes, the Sig Sauer M11 P228 is the official handgun of the SEALS, however it would seem less appropriate for this particular mission due to the small caliber (9 mm). There really is no question that it was a handgun and not an assault rifle or SMG due to the fact that the kill-shot was, as noted, a double-tap, which not only is much more difficult to achieve with an MP5 or an M4A1 simply due to the recoil of both weapons, but it's highly uncommon for a selective fire weapon to be set on single-shot in a close-quarters combat situation. So considering that the probability that their MP5's and M4A1's were most likely set to three-round burst or automatic, it is impossible to get a double-tap with those settings on those weapons.

    Play Call-of-duty much?
     

    latech15

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    I heard it was a 1911 in honor of the centennial. I heard is was a bayou bullet that did it too. Or maybe it was a moon clipped, carmonized, 625 JM. Yeah, that's more like it.

    Not really....
     

    Ben Segrest

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    a double-tap, which not only is much more difficult to achieve with an MP5 or an M4A1 simply due to the recoil of both weapons

    I'm gonna leave the rest of the post alone for the time being. This video demonstrates that the statement above is very inaccurate.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaCpOt9xVy4[/ame]
     
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    Sin-ster

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    The trio of SEALs I have asked about the Mk 23 said that it's pretty widely hated. I've heard the same from several other folks who have association, professional or otherwise, with the Teams.

    If you've ever even seen one in person (much less put your hands on it), you know why.

    So the media is reporting that it was two specific trigger presses that lead to his demise? Or are they just throwing the catchy term "double tap" around because he got shot twice in the dome?
     

    GWB

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    They should have tied him to a pole and let a 10 man firing squad continously shoot him with Beeman pellet rifles till he was dead.
     

    biggin215

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    Got to go with the handgun for the killshot, most likely the other standard issue pistol of the SEALS, a suppressed H&K M23 Mod O .45 Cal. SOCOM considering the nature of the mission and the need for the heavier round against enemies who would be most likely armed with larger caliber assault rifles. Yes, the Sig Sauer M11 P228 is the official handgun of the SEALS, however it would seem less appropriate for this particular mission due to the small caliber (9 mm). There really is no question that it was a handgun and not an assault rifle or SMG due to the fact that the kill-shot was, as noted, a double-tap, which not only is much more difficult to achieve with an MP5 or an M4A1 simply due to the recoil of both weapons, but it's highly uncommon for a selective fire weapon to be set on single-shot in a close-quarters combat situation. So considering that the probability that their MP5's and M4A1's were most likely set to three-round burst or automatic, it is impossible to get a double-tap with those settings on those weapons.

    No.... I.... just..... uh......

    :rofl:
     

    kibb

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    :todd:

    Actually I found it on another website but couldn't copy the credits. Sounded pretty credible except for the one part, but these are skilled marksmen that do shoot better than any of of us.
     

    BOSS302

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    Jesus people.

    DEVGRU and Delta both use the HK416, HK417 and HK45. They didn't go in there lookin to kill everyone, just him. Stealth, Speed, and Violence of action. The entire mission took 40min, that includes 30min of flight time. Deploy, engage, get out.

    Equipment load out varies due to mission requirements, but these are the main tools in use.

    Got to go with the handgun for the killshot, most likely the other standard issue pistol of the SEALS, a suppressed H&K M23 Mod O .45 Cal. SOCOM considering the nature of the mission and the need for the heavier round against enemies who would be most likely armed with larger caliber assault rifles. Yes, the Sig Sauer M11 P228 is the official handgun of the SEALS, however it would seem less appropriate for this particular mission due to the small caliber (9 mm). There really is no question that it was a handgun and not an assault rifle or SMG due to the fact that the kill-shot was, as noted, a double-tap, which not only is much more difficult to achieve with an MP5 or an M4A1 simply due to the recoil of both weapons, but it's highly uncommon for a selective fire weapon to be set on single-shot in a close-quarters combat situation. So considering that the probability that their MP5's and M4A1's were most likely set to three-round burst or automatic, it is impossible to get a double-tap with those settings on those weapons.

    Dude, call of duty isnt how it works in the real world.
     
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    kibb

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    No. Never asked for permission, just don't give a rats ass.

    Thin skin?

    Call of duty, no I don't play it. Last game I played was on a Nintendo 64 so that would lead one to believe I'm not exactly a kid.
     

    BOSS302

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    No, very thick skinned actually. You're the one who resorted to name calling, but I'm willing to forget it.

    Burst is worthless on an M4, the only time I ever used it was when we were depleting the rest of our blanks, and even then I could have dumped the mags faster on semi.
     
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    kibb

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    Well it's like this. I made a post explaining where the info came from then, you quote my original post and insinuate I got the ideology from playing games. I've been reading the replies since I posted yesterday and never resorted to cussing anyone after all the negative comments. This time I was just playing the hand that was dealt and calling em like I see em.
     

    BOSS302

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    Not helping your case by calling me a dumbass. You stated where you read the info, but not where it came from. Credits from what? A film, article, website?

    I wasn't the first to state the "Call Of Cuty" reference, just the one you decided to act on. Perhaps it was the the manner in which you stated your first reply. You seem like an intelligent individual, but came across as someone without very much experience around firearms.
     
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