Coyote snipers come up empty-handed in Harahan hunt.

[charlie12]

Damn ole ammo

Hey all you ammo guys the SWAT needs some ammo, seems like theirs won't kill a coyote.


http://www.nola.com/pets/index.ssf/2011/07/coyote_snipers_come_up_empty-h.html

 

[RyanW]

I wouldn't mind getting in on one those little excursions. I thought they were only using 22's for the rat hunts

 

[herohog]

"These things are very, very elusive, and they're not nutria," Najolia said.

No! Really?!?!?

 

[charlie12]

I like this part. Does SWAT need different ammo so they can hit the coyote.



"They fired a round, but we didn't connect," Najolia said.

It could have been the .223-caliber ammunition being used by the shooters, he said. Coyotes might require a different type of bullet, perhaps a varmint round specifically made to take down small animals."

 

[Lewgee]

Isn't .223 the most common Varmint round?

 

[charlie12]

Isn't .223 the most common Varmint round?

I would say probably yes but the SWAT have people shooting guns and need to get varmint shooting guns. You know.

 

[oleheat]

First off, they must be hit in order for any round to work.

But if it were me, the .223 rounds I'd use would be something that expands, rather than FMJ....

 

[03protege]

"It could have been the .223-caliber ammunition being used by the shooters, he said. Coyotes might require a different type of bullet, perhaps a varmint round specifically made to take down small animals."

Sounds like someone is making up excuses. Even with "better" ammunition it will only kill it faster.

 

[Hitman]

It could have been the .223-caliber ammunition being used by the shooters, he said. Coyotes might require a different type of bullet, perhaps a varmint round specifically made to take down small animals."

 

[Sin-ster]

Isn't .223 the most common Varmint round?

Without question, yes. Especially for coyote in this country, magnified when you're talking about the ranges these "SWAT" guys are working at. It's arguably the best choice for the job as well.

Provided their rifles are set up for it (twist-wise), one of the short, hollow varmint grenades would be a fine option. You don't need a lot of penetration on a coyote, and get the added advantage of not having it in case of errant shots-- which apparently are pretty common for these guys. They aren't shooting far enough to be concerned about the BC, and that type of fragmentation will leave the spindly little 'yotes around here in pieces.

Heck, if they have some of the 60 grain TAP around, that'd be the easiest and most obvious choice. On top of everything else, that ballistic tip makes for some consistent (read: accurate) shooting.

 

[DuckYou]

First off, they must be hit in order for any round to work. But if it were me, the .223 rounds I'd use would be something that expands, rather than FMJ....

The police should not be using fmj for anything other than range time. Military must use it because of the War treaty.

 

[JadeRaven]

Can the residents shoot them?

 

[LCPL 4]

...Military must use it because of the War treaty.

Geneva - No
Hague - Maybe, depends on who you ask ... http://www.thegunzone.com/hague.html

 

[03protege]

Geneva - No
Hague - Maybe, depends on who you ask ... http://www.thegunzone.com/hague.html

So the US and Russian armies base their ammo selection off a maybe?

 

[oleheat]

The police should not be using fmj for anything other than range time. Military must use it because of the War treaty.

TG was talking about this on Guntalk's radio show this past Sunday, and he gave the impression that they were using .223 FMJ ammo on the coyotes. (If you can get his podcast, you can hear what he says in the July 3rd show. It's in segment one, in the first 10 minutes of the show.)

 

[leVieux]

In order to hit a coyote, one must be able to see the coyote.

It is not easy to find and see a coyote.

And, it matters very little what kind of bullet is was, THEY MISSED THE COYOTE !

 

[fastmover]

i do understand, every time i have ever "not connected" it was and will remain always the ammo's fault.

 

[oleheat]

I'd have to say if they were hunting in even a sparsely populated area, it wouldn't be very wise to use FMJ.

 

[charlie12]

Maybe they should go with SWAH, Special Weapons And Hunters.

 

[XD-GEM]

http://www.wwltv.com/news/Deputies-on-the-hunt-for-coyotes-in-River-Ridge-124888739.html

video of hunt - notice the suppressors on the rifles.