As I understand, FBI went to 9mm some time ago. Apparently the recoil from .40 was such they determined that it reduced accuracy, and with the more powerful 9mm rounds available now that was the better option for most agents. I guess this is just Glock getting the contract instead of whoever was providing the arms, maybe S&W? Not sure about that, though.
Glock Wins New FBI Contract.
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I say that because I have never had any issues with the 9mm barrel in a .40 slide(this includes Lone Wolf.) The FBI could have contracted with Lone Wolf.
If they want new guns, then they should have gone with HK like other Federal agencies have. Glocks are excellent, but HK is better.
I know a few NOPD who practice with 9mm barrels in their issue G22 slides with no issues. The G22 is tough and reliable. Just don't call it refined!
I would not want to see any agency have to carry a gun with aftermarket parts.
How has HK proved to be better?
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I have taught more than a few LEO's how to shoot pistols and very few know much about guns. You must have had a dream because I never used the word refined.
The LEA's that use HK pistols is a drop in the bucket compared to the LEA's that use Glock pistols. I own Glocks and HK striker fired pistols and both are tough and reliable.
The exchange cost for new Glocks for a LEA is less than most aftermarket barrels. Been there, Done that.
Very true but I generally do not mod my carry guns with the exception of adding different sights.
Just a preference of mine.
In the past, Glock has done buybacks or free exchanges for service guns, even if the exchange is for another make. That is possibly what they are doing for the FBI, a credit for the guns they have toward the replacement 9mm Glocks. Glock will then put the exchanged guns back into the used market where they will make more for the guns than they gave credit for. That's what they have done in the past, so not surprised if they are doing it with the change to 9mm here for the FBI.
An example: Glock sells the new pistols for approximately $350 each and the distributor allows approximately $250 each on the trades meaning the buyer pays approximately $100 each for the new pistols after trade in allowance and is exempt from paying taxes. The distributor sells the used pistols for approximately $375 each with 1 magazine and keeps the 2 spare magazines for retail sale.
There are 2 Glock Distributors in Louisiana. Barneys will take trades and Baton Rouge Police Supply will not take trades.
There are 2 Glock Distributors in Louisiana. Barneys will take trades and Baton Rouge Police Supply will not take trades.
I only made the "refined" comment because an old Marine buddy said that about the factory Glock trigger.
The likely favorable exchange price is a valid point. Kenner PD was able to exchange M&P pistols for new ones for $35 each instead replacing springs for $30 each.
HK pistols will shoot longer before any replacement parts are needed. HK spends more time on new designs in order to get it right. Overall, the HK is better engineered than any other service pistols out there. The problem is that they are more expensive.
Yes, Glock gets into a lot of LE holsters by being the lowest bidder. They are still very good guns for protection.
Oh boy, here we go!
So let me understand this: HK is better because they have to keep working on new designs to get it right? And Glock is not as good because they got it right the 1st time and cost less?
Oh yes the round count before needing replacement parts: I think we would need to look at the cost, availability and amount of labor to replace the parts on each gun before we can call that a advantage or not.
machinedrummer
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HK is a great pistol but can it shoot under water, never rust, never jam, and get through metal detectors without being detected? Let's stick to the facts. Glock is just a better pistol.
Danny Abear
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I think you have been watching toooooo much tv
machinedrummer
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Well if it's on YouTube and the Internet then it must be true. All you non-believers baffle me. Of course I'm joking. I actually owned a HK. 45 compact. Beautiful gun, shot as I would expect it to bug the grip angle wasn't for me. Wish I still had it in the safe but it was traded for one of those ugly black plastic pistols that fit my natural aim better. Plus some cash too. 
Well if it's on YouTube and the Internet then it must be true. All you non-believers baffle me. Of course I'm joking. I actually owned a HK. 45 compact. Beautiful gun, shot as I would expect it to bug the grip angle wasn't for me. Wish I still had it in the safe but it was traded for one of those ugly black plastic pistols that fit my natural aim better. Plus some cash too.
Just wait HK will redesign that grip angle soon and get it right.
machinedrummer
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That will get really expensive for me!! If I were a tier one operator like most around here I would already be in the club but I'm good with the old Glock ugly duckling. It's abilities are far beyond what I'm capable of at this point in my life.
