LEO disarms soldier illegally
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thats not even the worst part to me. thats a slam dunk in court.
the worst to me was "Is every citizen with a gun dangerous?" "I have a chp" Officers Answer: "Yes."
That... very much concerns me. If that mentality is shared amongst our friendly neighborhood leo's, then the tin-foil basement dwellers are about to declare victory.
the worst to me was "Is every citizen with a gun dangerous?" "I have a chp" Officers Answer: "Yes."
That... very much concerns me. If that mentality is shared amongst our friendly neighborhood leo's, then the tin-foil basement dwellers are about to declare victory.
I think its pretty shitty on the soliders part. People like him have been doing this lately just to get a rise out of people and leos. I dont not agree that he was arrested. But there is nonlaw that says a leo can not stop and talk to someone. If hes carrying thwn ask if he can give upmjis weaoon while they talk. Check to see if the weapon is stolen or is he has warrants or is a convicted felon. If hes good to go then give his stuff back and go on.
Thia video leaves a lot out. Were the police dispacthed? If so then under good faith and other supreme court ruligs they can stop and talk with him. If he refusing tonstoos and keeps walking then yes he is resisting. Theres a lot we dont know and I wish stuff like this would give more back story or even a final result
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Thia video leaves a lot out. Were the police dispacthed? If so then under good faith and other supreme court ruligs they can stop and talk with him. If he refusing tonstoos and keeps walking then yes he is resisting. Theres a lot we dont know and I wish stuff like this would give more back story or even a final result
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I watched about 6 & a half minutes of the video before I had completely sided with the cops. The soldier is being a belligerent jerk. He should've announced he had a conceal carry permit the moment they stopped him.
The cop may have been a little over aggressive and probably should've handled the situation differently from the get go, but if someone he doesn't know has a firearm he has no way of knowing if this guy is a threat or not. Most cops that are killed by a firearm in the line of duty never even have a chance BC the person is a fleeing felon and starts shooting without warning. A different approach from both parties could've gone a long way. Keep in mind I didn't watch past 6.5 min of it. Just my 2 cent
The cop may have been a little over aggressive and probably should've handled the situation differently from the get go, but if someone he doesn't know has a firearm he has no way of knowing if this guy is a threat or not. Most cops that are killed by a firearm in the line of duty never even have a chance BC the person is a fleeing felon and starts shooting without warning. A different approach from both parties could've gone a long way. Keep in mind I didn't watch past 6.5 min of it. Just my 2 cent
Silver03gt
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I have to agree with everything you said.
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I don't agree with how the soldier reacted and I don't agree with how the cops were acting either.
That being said, I usually don't have time to be stopped and questioned by law enforcement much less have the time to get myself arrested. I may have the right to openly carry here in Louisiana, but I choose not to in order to keep from having to deal with the BS that comes along with it. If I wanted to teach the law to ignorant people, I would have become a civics teacher.
More power to you that openly carry.
That being said, I usually don't have time to be stopped and questioned by law enforcement much less have the time to get myself arrested. I may have the right to openly carry here in Louisiana, but I choose not to in order to keep from having to deal with the BS that comes along with it. If I wanted to teach the law to ignorant people, I would have become a civics teacher.
More power to you that openly carry.
SpeedRacer
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Why must they always be complete douches!
Regardless of how you feel about these encounters, the progression is to look at guns as the potential problem at the onset. The recent theme is to assume there is a problem because a firearm is involved. This sentiment of firearms becoming a public nuisance is starting to grow. I believe that this is a planned strategy and part of the anti-gun playbook.
If he wasn't a complete douche then he probably wouldn't have been arrested and the video wouldn't be on to be discussed.
OTOH, the cops handled that poorly. The douche will probably be riding a new motorcycle soon. Him being a douche does not give them the right... Lets face it, LEO's deal with complete douches all the time.
this is more my opinion. yes, hes a douche, but being a douche is not illegal. in LEO's defense, i'd like to think that for every video like this that hits youtube there are probably a dozen situations that ended with a "thank you sir, have a nice day". Not sure if true, if not please don't ruin my fairy tale. lol My guff lies entirely on two statements made by the officers. 1) yes we are exempt from the law 2) yes, citizens with firearms are a threat.
I'm not anti-LEO, many of my good friends are leo's of some form. I am against the rights of americans being infringed by a law enforcement agency that doesn't clearly understand the laws they set out to enforce. Is it a training issue? A questionable judgement call?
And to answer some questions: the officer states that he was dispatched via a public complaint regarding a man with a rifle walking down the road, he wasn't just driving by and decided to end his evening on youtube.
In the officer's eyes, he is a threat. How would he know what this guy is going to do? The officer doesn't know if the guy will open fire on him. What would you do if you were a LEO, and responsed to a call about a guy walking around with a AR-15?
He wouldn't! And the line is blurry, but we in the country and our LE community are slowly moving away from acknowledging what is legal to do and on the books to what is perceived as a threat just because a firearm is involved.
Somewhere we need to strike a balance.
the guys you have to worry about aren't the guys that state "officer i have a weapon"...
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