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LSP seize 64 unlawful pistols during Mardi Gras
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1) Louisiana has no law against 'printing', or even open carry. The more my belt shrinks, the more I print when I carry. Which is always. I wear larger shirts, untucked to cover my IWB appendix carry.
2) IIRC, Bourbon St is a public street. I believe I have a right to carry on a public street, no matter the date on the calendar. There are no parades on Bourbon St that I am aware of.
When I visit the French Quarter, I do not disarm unless I plan on drinking. Which is not often anymore.
I don't go into establishments that are off limits to carry into. Not even the post office.
I don't carry because I'm afraid, any more than I keep a fire extinguisher because I'm afraid of a kitchen fire.
I carry because I know that there are bad people in this world who have no regard for the safety of others. The only way to avoid bad people is to become a hermit. I'm way too gregarious for hermithood.
I wonder if any of those 64 people were veterans.
There are different rules for Bourbon Street. I was carrying a Buck 110 in my pocket about 25 years ago, and was stopped by NOPD. He told me to give him the knife as he was confiscating it. I told him that it was not illegal to carry it in NO or LA. He said this is Bourbon Street, and we have our own rules. I told him to give me a receipt for it as I wanted it back when I left town. He told me to come sit in the back of his unit and he would write me a receipt 
I determined that the cost of a Buck 110 was not worth the hassle of being arrested and hiring a lawyer, so I let him have it. I hope the a$$hole enjoyed wearing it.
I determined that the cost of a Buck 110 was not worth the hassle of being arrested and hiring a lawyer, so I let him have it. I hope the a$$hole enjoyed wearing it.
Gator 45/70
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New Orleans is a banana republic and has been for years, Locals know this.
Don't kid yourself, You really don't have any rights.
Don't kid yourself, You really don't have any rights.
First step is deciding to make a change! You got this dude!!
LA has laws against carrying concealed without a permit....and printing is like *the* giveaway that one may be breaking that law. It's also articuable probable cause.
Facts.
Good points. I also try to avoid that area of the world....but if I'm there, I'm likely drinking.
Pay attention to this one; it has huge implications!
There are different rules for Bourbon Street. I was carrying a Buck 110 in my pocket about 25 years ago, and was stopped by NOPD. He told me to give him the knife as he was confiscating it. I told him that it was not illegal to carry it in NO or LA. He said this is Bourbon Street, and we have our own rules. I told him to give me a receipt for it as I wanted it back when I left town. He told me to come sit in the back of his unit and he would write me a receipt
What is the statute for these different 'rules' on Bourbon St. ?
There are different rules for Bourbon Street. I was carrying a Buck 110 in my pocket about 25 years ago, and was stopped by NOPD. He told me to give him the knife as he was confiscating it. I told him that it was not illegal to carry it in NO or LA. He said this is Bourbon Street, and we have our own rules. I told him to give me a receipt for it as I wanted it back when I left town. He told me to come sit in the back of his unit and he would write me a receipt
A Buck 110 does not have a clip. So if it were in your pocket, it would have been IN your pocket. If that's the case, it seems the cop would have had to either randomly stop you and pat your down without probable cause or the cop found it during a pat down where he had probable cause and you've just left that part out of your story.
WilsonCombatant
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This is so true. Before the kids came, my wife and I stayed home every weekend. We only left the house if we absolutely needed to. I didn’t get my first gun until after my first kid was born. Those kids drag us everywhere now.
This is the most common sense response to this. I don't typically go places that I can't carry. If it's not allowed or just frowned upon, you know someone puts up a sign, and I have to go, I am carrying, especially in areas that crime is known to happen. Murder is a crime! Theft and robbery are crimes! A person who carrys a firearm to protect themselves, their family, and others shouldn't be considered a criminal just because of where they are. It's better to keep the firearm on you than leave it in a car.
People who conceal carry, according to a national study, are the most law abiding group of people. More so than law enforcement, judicial members, and others
I had a cop on detail at a Bourbon St. club door bump my pocket, then reach right in and lift my Buck 110 out and ask me why I was carrying it. "Habit, I carry it all the time." He asked me where I was from and I told him Lacombe (at the time). He told me to come get it back when I was leaving, and I did, no problem. I guess just being from "the country" (that's how Lacombe was described back then) is enough of an explanation, like "Well, that's expected, then."There are different rules for Bourbon Street. I was carrying a Buck 110 in my pocket about 25 years ago, and was stopped by NOPD. He told me to give him the knife as he was confiscating it. I told him that it was not illegal to carry it in NO or LA. He said this is Bourbon Street, and we have our own rules. I told him to give me a receipt for it as I wanted it back when I left town. He told me to come sit in the back of his unit and he would write me a receipt
See post above this one. They "bump" into you and feel for a weapon. No pat down, no probable cause.A Buck 110 does not have a clip. So if it were in your pocket, it would have been IN your pocket. If that's the case, it seems the cop would have had to either randomly stop you and pat your down without probable cause or the cop found it during a pat down where he had probable cause and you've just left that part out of your story.
Would you go to jail, post bail, hire a lawyer and try to fight it? You must have more time and money than I did 25 years ago.
Feeling for a weapon is a pat down without probable cause. Normally, if someone brushed up against you with their hand while walking, it will be with the back of their hand. There's no way to determine there's a knife in your pocket by feeling it with the back of your hand. The same is true by simply touching something with the palm of your hand. The only way to know what that item is would be to manipulate the item in your pocket through your clothing. The typical carry location for a gun is the waist so they must not be worried about guns. So unless you were specifically targeted, you're suggest that NOPD goes around, or at least went around 25 years ago, grabbing people's pockets looking for knives.
Gator 45/70
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I've heard of guys buying a big big banana and shoving down their pants leg in the front and walking around just to check out the looks they get.
Not that I'd do anything like that but....On bourbon street think any NOPD would ''bump'' up against that?
Asking for a friend only?
Not that I'd do anything like that but....On bourbon street think any NOPD would ''bump'' up against that?
Asking for a friend only?
I had an M1 Garand, a Bulgarian AK and a Mossberg shotgun stolen in 2004. None have turned up, that I'm aware of despite serial numbers and pictures being provided to police. So it's not just NOLA.
Are you saying that your firearms were recovered and not returned or that they are still on the street?
That is exactly correct. The cops know that the case won't fly. But they also know they can arrest you and lock you up a few days. If you really **** them off. They will "lose you" in Parish prison. You get thrown in a cell but no one can findd you and you don't go in front of a magistrate. After about 4 or 5 days being locked up... The jailer finds you and tells you that "you were lost" - locked up in the wrong cell or section.
New Orleans is a hell of a lot worse than a Banana Republic. It's a totally different world. And the NOPD has been taking guns from people for well over 50 years. Its just what they do.
You don't get "lost" in parish prison. You aren't thrown in some secret cell that nobody knows about only to be found days later.
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