My Opinion: Ammo is worth more than the dollar

[blackened1313]

It has been about 8 years since I worked for a decent sized arms dealer in Kentucky and have forgotten alot, but what I have learned is this--the prices of firearms have not changed that much since then( we were selling bushmasters for around a thousand and change, glocks havent really changed in price as is the case for most firearms.

However, the price of ammo has almost tripled since then and seems to be getting harder to find. We used to have 18 wheelers show up full of crates of 7.62 x 39, 54, 556 and everything else and it was cheaper than rocks.

I have some stock right now but I think the way to go would be Ammo. The price is ever increasing and in the event of zombie apocalypse, stocks, gold and everything else would be useless. Down here, after katrina, you couldnt even get your money out the bank because they were closed. Ammo could be used, traded and sold and seller sets the market.

Aside from the storage issue, ammo is a solid investment all the way around. I am sure all of you know this already but I think along with your teotwawki food storage prep maybe a box or two of ammo everytime you go to wally world isnt a bad idea.

 

[gbundersea]

+1,000,000

 

[dantheman]

I tend to agree . If things get REALLY ( REALLY ) bad , guns and ammo will be a lot more valuable than precious metals .

 

[CloudStrife]

In a barter system ammo would be one of the easiest means of trade since it is so portable. It's not all that different than money, except that it can be used up.

 

[thatwhichisnt]

Ammo is better than the dollar, I would agree with that. However, ammo fails to meet a lot of requirements of money, such as a medium of exchange. Good to have? Absolutely. Investment? Hardly.

 

[CloudStrife]

Ammo is better than the dollar, I would agree with that. However, ammo fails to meet a lot of requirements of money, such as a medium of exchange. Good to have? Absolutely. Investment? Hardly.

It could become a medium of exchange if its use became common enough. At that point its function in weapons would be secondary. I don't see this being the case if SHTF though.

 

[blackened1313]

Ammo is better than the dollar, I would agree with that. However, ammo fails to meet a lot of requirements of money, such as a medium of exchange. Good to have? Absolutely. Investment? Hardly.

True but in the event of total collapse, cash is only paper. Medium for exchange would be ammo for food, gas or anything else.

 

[Nomad.2nd]

Ammo is better than the dollar, I would agree with that. However, ammo fails to meet a lot of requirements of money, such as a medium of exchange. Good to have? Absolutely. Investment? Hardly.

Your wrong.

Ammo IS a medium of exchange... doubt me?
Go check the sale forums where people buy/sell guns and other things for ammo.

It's also durable, and divisable.

Ammo in some countries costs more than the weapons.

I remember reading one article where it discussed in some African (IIRC) country a loaded pistol mag costing more than the gun!

HOWEVER...

Ammo is HEAVY.

I just moved about 50,000 rounds give or take...

Believe me, I was HAITING ammo by the time that was done.


Ignoring the 'descussion' on the term 'investment' vs 'speculation'

I'd think that few would disagree that:

<$21 per 140 .308
$3.86 Per 50 9mm
$75 Per 1,000 7.62x39
$108 per 1,080 5.45x39
$30 Per 440 7.62x54
$30 Per 440 8mm

(All prices after shipping)

Wern't bad places to park FRN's.

 

[Yrdawg]

nutter plus here absolutely, buy it cheep stack it deep....it will never go down

Ammo has followed gas, the price runs up to crazy then backs off a little and we call it cheap, it will never be worth less than it is today

IANAL, IANAammodealer, Ididn't sleep@ HIx last nite

 

[blackened1313]

Your wrong.

Ammo IS a medium of exchange... doubt me?
Go check the sale forums where people buy/sell guns and other things for ammo.

It's also durable, and divisable.

Ammo in some countries costs more than the weapons.

I remember reading one article where it discussed in some African (IIRC) country a loaded pistol mag costing more than the gun!

HOWEVER...

Ammo is HEAVY.

I just moved about 50,000 rounds give or take...

Believe me, I was HAITING ammo by the time that was done.


Ignoring the 'descussion' on the term 'investment' vs 'speculation'

I'd think that few would disagree that:

<$21 per 140 .308
$3.86 Per 50 9mm
$75 Per 1,000 7.62x39
$108 per 1,080 5.45x39
$30 Per 440 7.62x54
$30 Per 440 8mm

(All prices after shipping)

Wern't bad places to park FRN's.

Lol, that 45acp ammo is heavy. The wooden crates of 7.62x39 left me with a bulging disk in my lower back along time ago and it still bothers me now.

 

[Nomad.2nd]

Lol, that 45acp ammo is heavy. The wooden crates of 7.62x39 left me with a bulging disk in my lower back along time ago and it still bothers me now.

Few cans of 45 wern't bad, but I pulled an abb muscle on a case of 8mm!

 

[hunter5567]

Not to mention in a SHTF scenario, if you have guns and ammo and they don't--you can just take their food, medicine, gold, etc. It'll be a dog eat dog world and those with guns and ammo will be the top eating dogs.

 

[CloudStrife]

Maybe we could even create ammo certificates! It'll give the holder the ability to exchange the certificate for a certain amount of ammo from the originator. That way were won't have to haul the ammo around! Yesssss!!!!

Not to mention in a SHTF scenario, if you have guns and ammo and they don't--you can just take their food, medicine, gold, etc. It'll be a dog eat dog world and those with guns and ammo will be the top eating dogs.

If the world goes to ****, I hope there are still people around that don't.

 

[Turn Key]

Your wrong.

Ammo IS a medium of exchange... doubt me?
Go check the sale forums where people buy/sell guns and other things for ammo.

It's also durable, and divisible.

Ammo in some countries costs more than the weapons.

I remember reading one article where it discussed in some African (IIRC) country a loaded pistol mag costing more than the gun!

HOWEVER...

Ammo is HEAVY.

I just moved about 50,000 rounds give or take...

Believe me, I was HATING ammo by the time that was done.


Ignoring the 'discussion' on the term 'investment' vs 'speculation'

I'd think that few would disagree that:

<$21 per 140 .308
$3.86 Per 50 9mm
$75 Per 1,000 7.62x39
$108 per 1,080 5.45x39
$30 Per 440 7.62x54
$30 Per 440 8mm

(All prices after shipping)

Weren't bad places to park FRN's.

Bro, I'm certainly Not disagreeing with ya.

As long as you share your source for 9mm @ $0.0772 cents per round. I'm assuming its just the bullet. If it is a complete FMJ primed to shoot, PM me immediately!

TK

 

[Nomad.2nd]

Bro, I'm certainly Not disagreeing with ya.

As long as you share your source for 9mm @ $0.0772 cents per round. I'm assuming its just the bullet. If it is a complete FMJ primed to shoot, PM me immediately!

TK

Blazer...Both Al and then Brass cased...

First, you get your WAAAAY back machine... and go back to 2006.

Then you spend several months with me as I walked into Academy Sports Every paycheck and bought several cases!

Me and a few other Marines/Gun buddies did this... they were ordering SO much 9mm (Their volumes are based on past sales) it got to be a joke!

When I burn through the 'Cheap stuff' and haveto start on the $6 per box... it'll be a sad day!

hunter5567 Not to mention in a SHTF scenario, if you have guns and ammo and they don't--you can just take their food, medicine, gold, etc. It'll be a dog eat dog world and those with guns and ammo will be the top eating dogs.

I ain't getting shot over a can of beans...
I'll go buy some extra packs of Ramen now...

 

[blackened1313]

Not to mention in a SHTF scenario, if you have guns and ammo and they don't--you can just take their food, medicine, gold, etc. It'll be a dog eat dog world and those with guns and ammo will be the top eating dogs.

Me and my aunt have that arguement all the time. she grows vegetables from seeds and I tell her I am gonna take her food with my guns.

 

[blackened1313]

And...nobody ever got robbed by someone weilding a can of beans.

 

[Suburbazine]

Ammo has always been treated as currency, especially out on the Pacific. One of my cousins sailed around out there, and a .22 would go a LONG ways on some islands.

 

[jimdana1942]

Yowp. The day is coming people will be melting down their gold and silver trying to make themselves some bullets.

Commodities of the future with trading value:

Food, water, guns, bullets, medications. Thats it.

 

[nola_]

Nomad, only 50,000 rounds?

That much is heavy in any caliber....