Need LEO Advice Pit Bull tried to attack my two small children several times.

[JetMech]

When I lived in Bossier our dog out of our backyard once. All he did was walk around the the house trying to get inside. Within minutes there were multiple Bossier PD cruisers and animal control there to capture him. It took us three days to get him back. I can't believe the authorities will do nothing to stop a dangerous animal like that.

 

[machinedrummer]

It seems that we have put more thought into shooting a dog to defend our children than if it were a two legged creature. In general terms not saying it applies here. I have not read all the post but society seems to protect animal rights than the rights of abused children. We have kids living in filth and deplorable conditions and yet seldom nothing is done yet when a dog is abused the owners are held accountable, as the should be but we have much bigger problems. If your kids are in danger of being eaten up by a dog kill it.

 

[James Thibodeau]

There is a leash law, use it. Use your smartphone and video the dog loose unless is a threat then don't waste time w the camera. If your wife does not want to open carry then fresh can of wasp spray with the 20 ft range. If he's close enough for mace it's already too late. And if all else fails you can do have the right to protect your private property from any dangerous or vicious animal as long as your action don't pose an equal or greater threat/hazard to innocent bystanders.

 

[oleheat]

Don't mean to jump off topic (sort of)....But kindly keep your eyes peeled for this wayward K9 officer, please......

Egad~!

 

[toddrod]

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[Dishonored]

A couple of antifreeze injected hotdogs placed in stategic places will take care of that pit bull for you.

And this thread just earned its first temp ban victim lol

 

[JWG223]

A couple of antifreeze injected hotdogs placed in stategic places will take care of that pit bull for you.

I love animals, but that's damn tempting. Family Safety > Some dog. Screw your warm fuzzies.

 

[Vsotok10]

Whats going to be worse: your actions before a loved one is bit, or your actions AFTER a loved one is bit

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Okay, so we had another incident with the dog today. My wife took one of our dogs for a walk to pick the kids up from the bus stop and the dog was loose and chased her, snarling and snapping, up the road. My wife called me first, then the number the previous animal control officer gave her. The agent told her he was off duty and would stop by the next morning with a deputy and possibly take the dog.

When she asked what could be done tonight to protect her and the kids (the dog was between her and our house) she was told to call the local police and they could write the owner a ticket for not having the dog properly restrained. She hung up and called the LE desk, and they dispatched an officer. A few minutes later i showed up in my truck and loaded my wife and kids in the cab while we waited for the LEO.

The LEO arrived and was fully briefed. Not understanding how the response given by animal control would help her or the kids make it home safely he asked what time we called animal control. My wife showed him the call records (it was 3:30). The LEO was very irritated that Animal control did not respond, he called his supervisor to report the incident.

The LEO then proceeded down the road to question the dog owner, and I escorted my wife and kids home safely tucked away in my truck. Shortly after the officer came to my residence and let us know the dog owner was not home. He said he was able to walk around the yard without the dog attacking him. He said the dog only became agitated (barking) when he tried to open the gate to the kennel where the puppies were.

I reminded him that I had stated the dog would only try to attack small women and children. I followed up by stating he was more than welcome to test the theory by walking his children down the road. The LEO questioned one of the neighbors about the whereabouts of the dog owner, during which the dog owner was dropped off by a friend at his residence. Due to multiple DUIs/driving with suspended licence he bums rides).

The LEO left to speak with the dog owner, then 15 mins later drove off. I was pleased with how this LEO handled the situation. He also stated that the law was broken by the dog not being tied up or fenced in (different from what the last LEO said). I guess we'll have to wait and see if we get attacked in the morning to know if anything was done.

More to follow.

 

[peacemakr72]

One action I did not see in these reply's was for you to video this animal in it's behavior. If you had several minutes of video when this dog proceeds to rush, snap, growl or act aggressive, it could go a long way in defending your position if you do have to take lethal steps in dealing with it.
Just an observation.

 

[Vermiform]

One action I did not see in these reply's was for you to video this animal in it's behavior. If you had several minutes of video when this dog proceeds to rush, snap, growl or act aggressive, it could go a long way in defending your position if you do have to take lethal steps in dealing with it.
Just an observation.

If video exists of the dog, out in the open, rushing, snapping, growling or acting aggressive then the end of the video needs to show someone shooting it to the ground. Enough is enough.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Those are some great suggestions everyone, many of the legal ones I have tried or pondered.

Not sure I made this clear, I cannot get this dog to charge unless I have my kids with me, or my wife is alone/with kids. Having to hit a crazed sack of meat and teeth in close proximity to my small children is not plan A. It is more like plan C or D. My wife would need to have a tactical shotgun to have a chance at taking it out while she is alone. The law states the dog has to step into the street before you can legally shoot it. From street to kids is approx 8 feet. That distance at full charge ... not a gamble I want to make.

Cell phone video is good, we'll try to safely get that. Same concerns above apply. Mace, wasp spray more great ideas (temp fix). If the neighbor is pissed we called the cops because he has to pay a fine, he will have to walk his drunk rear down to my house and kick down my door. We will greet him with the appropriate response if he wants to argue/attack us.

Due to my military/clearance status I must not break the law, but if the dog attacks me on his property while I am trying to knock on his door to barrow some sugar, that is self defence.

If I kill the dog, he will get another. Neighbor killed his last dog for aggressive behavior. The dog was on their property. I need for the owner to be fined. I need the paper trail. I need to show I exhausted all possible solutions. We call it CYA in the service, i am sure you all are aware of that term.

Calling Parrish reps is also a good idea, along with the local news. Local Military terrorized by viciuose dog and authorities unwilling to help? I'd watch that! I'll give the Sheriffs Dept and Animal control one more chance. My wife will drive the kids to the bus stop and I'll pick them up in my truck tomorrow. If the dog is still there I "go up the chain."

Thanks to all that replied, I'm sure I am forgetting someones great advice. We will read through it a few more times. Not going to move, my neighbors will shoot the dog before that happens. They like having us in the neighborhood.

And before you ask, getting my Conceal Carry ASAP.

Stay Tuned

 

[JWG223]

In years gone by, this wasn't a problem here in the South. Change has come, both for good, and for bad. I for one, think this should be...handled. That's not the way the world works, anymore, though. OP, sounds like you are doing this "right". Good on you, and I hope it ends well.

 

[Vermiform]

Those are some great suggestions everyone, many of the legal ones I have tried or pondered.

Not sure I made this clear, I cannot get this dog to charge unless I have my kids with me, or my wife is alone/with kids. Having to hit a crazed sack of meat and teeth in close proximity to my small children is not plan A. It is more like plan C or D. My wife would need to have a tactical shotgun to have a chance at taking it out while she is alone. The law states the dog has to step into the street before you can legally shoot it. From street to kids is approx 8 feet. That distance at full charge ... not a gamble I want to make.

Cell phone video is good, we'll try to safely get that. Same concerns above apply. Mace, wasp spray more great ideas (temp fix). If the neighbor is pissed we called the cops because he has to pay a fine, he will have to walk his drunk rear down to my house and kick down my door. We will greet him with the appropriate response if he wants to argue/attack us.

Due to my military/clearance status I must not break the law, but if the dog attacks me on his property while I am trying to knock on his door to barrow some sugar, that is self defence.

If I kill the dog, he will get another. Neighbor killed his last dog for aggressive behavior. The dog was on their property. I need for the owner to be fined. I need the paper trail. I need to show I exhausted all possible solutions. We call it CYA in the service, i am sure you all are aware of that term.

Calling Parrish reps is also a good idea, along with the local news. Local Military terrorized by viciuose dog and authorities unwilling to help? I'd watch that! I'll give the Sheriffs Dept and Animal control one more chance. My wife will drive the kids to the bus stop and I'll pick them up in my truck tomorrow. If the dog is still there I "go up the chain."

Thanks to all that replied, I'm sure I am forgetting someones great advice. We will read through it a few more times. Not going to move, my neighbors will shoot the dog before that happens. They like having us in the neighborhood.

And before you ask, getting my Conceal Carry ASAP.

Stay Tuned

What if you personally walk your dog by his house?

 

[Secret Squirrel]

It only goes bat____ crazy trying to get the kids. It charges at my wife ignoring our dogs. Our dogs have to jump between the pit and kids/wife to get attacked. I was told the owner lets the pit run loose at night, I've herd our dogs barking. I have never seen the pit after dark, but that may explain why the pit goes after my family not the dogs.

 

[Vermiform]

Understood. Like JWG said, it sounds like you are taking the right steps to remedy the problem.

Keep us updated unless of course you shoot the mongrel, in which case don't you dare post about it on here (or anywhere else on teh interwebz) until you are sure you are cleared of any criminal charges or civil liability.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

In years gone by, this wasn't a problem here in the South. Change has come, both for good, and for bad. I for one, think this should be...handled. That's not the way the world works, anymore, though. OP, sounds like you are doing this "right". Good on you, and I hope it ends well.

I had to go to the bank and get a loan on patience for this ****, believe me.

Obeying the law will always be harder than using common sense. Not a knock on Law, but those without common sense.

There are two ways that we can fix those without common sense. One create many laws to compensate for "lack of" or two .... remove warning labels from everyday items.

"damn Skeetor it is a good thing this pack of razors said not for human consuption, I was fixin to eat em"

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Understood. Like JWG said, it sounds like you are taking the right steps to remedy the problem.

Keep us updated unless of course you shoot the mongrel, in which case don't you dare post about it on here (or anywhere else on teh interwebz) until you are sure you are cleared of any criminal charges or civil liability.

Copy Lima Charlie, my uncle has learned me good about the dangers of the Book of Faces n stuff in the magical picture boxes.

 

[JWG223]

I had to go to the bank and get a loan on patience for this ****, believe me.

Obeying the law will always be harder than using common sense. Not a knock on Law, but those without common sense.

There are two ways that we can fix those without common sense. One create many laws to compensate for "lack of" or two .... remove warning labels from everyday items.

"damn Skeetor it is a good thing this pack of razors said not for human consuption, I was fixin to eat em"

Exactly. This happened in the 50's? HAH! You wouldn't have anything to post about. It would be over and done. But...play 'er like you have been, and if you get tired of it, poison the damn thing and never speak of it again, I mean, theoretically and all. Most dogs brought in dead, vet just says "Pulmonary embolus". Yeah, I had a patient tell me that once "My dog died of a pulmonary embolus". I thought WHAT!? (of course I nodded gravely and offered empathy) Anyway, I understand that's a canned answer for vets when the owner finds an animal dead. Owner can google that crap online, it sounds all official and everything, and it's something the vet can assure them was "quick and painless" so they don't think rover suffered.

 

[91white_ka]

Field justice man, anything could happen to a dog that off running free.As messed up as the situation is man it seems there is a ton of red tape when dealing with disgruntle pet owners. When I was younger I was bit by a Doberman, took 28 stiches to get my face closed up. On top of that, as if the ride to the ER with a blood soaked towel over my face wasn't bad enough. When we go to the ER they said they couldn't do anything and said we would have to drive to a dentist to see me up due to the amount of nerves in the face. Anyway, I would take whatever means needed to not let that happen to my kids.