St.Tammany Fracking

[freedive10]

Fracking, just like guns, should be outlawed.

Same thing right?

Y'all think that's air y'all breathing?

This website has been taken over by democrats.

No one said anything about making it illegal. Did I miss somthing?

 

[gunut]

Anybody in St Tam use fertilizer, roundup, pesticides?

All worse on the environment than frack water. These go straight into the aquifer.


What most of us do to our yards is worse than fracking.

There is tons of ignorance in this thread. People, like me, in the business are attempting to enlighten.

 

[Jack]

Fracking, just like guns, should be outlawed.

Same thing right?

Y'all think that's air y'all breathing?

This website has been taken over by democrats.

Who said anything about making fracking illegal?

 

[Hitman]

Anybody in St Tam use fertilizer, roundup, pesticides?

All worse on the environment than frack water. These go straight into the aquifer.


What most of us do to our yards is worse than fracking.

What is the depth of the Aquifer in question?

 

[Devilneck]

Anybody in St Tam use fertilizer, roundup, pesticides?

All worse on the environment than frack water. These go straight into the aquifer.


What most of us do to our yards is worse than fracking.

There is tons of ignorance in this thread. People, like me, in the business are attempting to enlighten.

Maybe the fracking fluid is perfectly drinkable and non toxic. What will be extracted and travelling through the pipe directly through the aquifer isn't.

Now, we all know there are never any problems when it comes to the petroleum industry. Still, we'd rather be safe and not play around with our drinking water.

Pesticides and fertilizers aren't showing up in well water tests through St Tammany, so you might want to find another strawman.

 

[Devilneck]

What is the depth of the Aquifer in question?

The depth varies, there are several aquifers actually that could be affected. They have to drill through to get to their target zone.
http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2009/3064/pdf/StTammy_FS.pdf

 

[freedive10]

There is tons of ignorance in this thread. People, like me, in the business are attempting to enlighten.

Maybe, but you can't blame me for having very little faith in your industry and its concern for the well-being of people and the environment.

I do applaud you for being honest that you’re in the business. The thing is, it’s hard for me to swallow the pill from the doctor whose medicine is at the heart of the issue.

 

[The_Shadow]

The FRACKING WELL, will bore right through every last one of the well water aquifer stratas to get to where they want to go...the makeup of the subsurface is mostly clays, sands, gravel, salt deposits, shale and or weak limestone, not much if any bedrock formations...

Meet The Frackers...they just want to stick it to us, with their drill stems churning!

 

[gunut]

Maybe the fracking fluid is perfectly drinkable and non toxic. What will be extracted and travelling through the pipe directly through the aquifer isn't.

Now, we all know there are never any problems when it comes to the petroleum industry. Still, we'd rather be safe and not play around with our drinking water.

Pesticides and fertilizers aren't showing up in well water tests through St Tammany

You've actually said more than you probably realize. What comes through the pipe? You mean the stuff that's already in the ground? Hmmm, think about that one for a minute.

So the chemicals that we are using isn't showing up in water wells? Hmm, what makes you think anything else will?

 

[Devilneck]

You've actually said more than you probably realize. What comes through the pipe? You mean the stuff that's already in the ground? Hmmm, think about that one for a minute.

So the chemicals that we are using isn't showing up in water wells? Hmm, what makes you think anything else will?

Yes, already in the ground, far below the aquifers, and will have a nice little pipe to travel through. Right on through the aquifers. Nothing to worry about at all. We all know that drilling equipment never fails. Pipes never break and all that.

 

[Hitman]

Yes, already in the ground, far below the aquifers, and will have a nice little pipe to travel through. Right on through the aquifers. Nothing to worry about at all. We all know that drilling equipment never fails. Pipes never break and all that.

Ok....so is he saying that (if) a pipe breaks,
having Frack Water enter the Aquifer
is no different(or worse) than "fertilizer, roundup, pesticides"
that already go straight into the Aquifer?

Anybody in St Tam use fertilizer, roundup, pesticides?
All worse on the environment than frack water. These go straight into the aquifer.
What most of us do to our yards is worse than fracking.

 

[gunut]

Devilneck, I'm trying to understand your point. But what you are saying makes no sense to me.

Are you against drilling?

Are you for drilling but against fracking?

Can I ask what you do for a living?

 

[Devilneck]

Devilneck, I'm trying to understand your point. But what you are saying makes no sense to me.

Are you against drilling?

Are you for drilling but against fracking?

Can I ask what you do for a living?

No, I'm not against drilling for oil, in general. I'm not against fracking, in general. My only issue with this is the location of this project, and the impact any accident will have on the Northshore's drinking supply. We don't process our drinking water out of the Mississippi river, like New Orleans. Most of the cities up here have very little water processing as it is. Almost all of our rural residents are drinking well water, completely unprocessed and straight from the same aquifers that would be destroyed by any accident with the drill pipes that will be running through.

If you ask me about putting in a rig offshore, I'm all for it. If they want to drill in the Lake, I dont' really have an issue there.

All I'm concerned with is drilling through the aquifers that the Northshore depends on. I understand that a steel pipe, covered in cement will be used. That doesn't give me much faith in the ability to stave off a catastrophe that could kill the production of Abita Beer, Covington Beer, and the drinking water we all have up here. It's not worth the risk to me, when there are so many other areas nearby that don't run the same gamble.

I have nothing at all against the oil industry.

I support IT for a major contractor to the DoD. Totally unrelated to this discussion. My interest here is only that it affects me, and my family if things go to caca.
And I will not abide a threat to my supply of fresh Turbodog. That is unconscionable.

 

[gunut]

How deep is your water well?

 

[Jack]

Fracking, just like guns, should be outlawed.

Same thing right?

Y'all think that's air y'all breathing?

This website has been taken over by democrats.

Who said anything about making fracking illegal?

Here is some direct research involving fracking below aquifers.

http://m.pnas.org/content/108/20/8172

 

[Nomad.2nd]

I found this interesting:
http://www.usgs.gov/blogs/features/usgs_top_story/man-made-earthquakes/

http://www2.epa.gov/hfstudy

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2013/06/19/1221635110

And I'd be interested in hearing opinions on this:
http://www.utexas.edu/news/2014/03/27/hydraulic-fracturing-texas/

 

[Danny Abear]

Y'all do know that a nuclear bomb was detonated just north of yall in the 60s, huh? And you worried about fracking fluid?

 

[CBlack]

No, I'm not against drilling for oil, in general. I'm not against fracking, in general. My only issue with this is the location of this project, and the impact any accident will have on the Northshore's drinking supply. We don't process our drinking water out of the Mississippi river, like New Orleans. Most of the cities up here have very little water processing as it is. Almost all of our rural residents are drinking well water, completely unprocessed and straight from the same aquifers that would be destroyed by any accident with the drill pipes that will be running through.

If you ask me about putting in a rig offshore, I'm all for it. If they want to drill in the Lake, I dont' really have an issue there.

All I'm concerned with is drilling through the aquifers that the Northshore depends on. I understand that a steel pipe, covered in cement will be used. That doesn't give me much faith in the ability to stave off a catastrophe that could kill the production of Abita Beer, Covington Beer, and the drinking water we all have up here. It's not worth the risk to me, when there are so many other areas nearby that don't run the same gamble.

I have nothing at all against the oil industry.

I support IT for a major contractor to the DoD. Totally unrelated to this discussion. My interest here is only that it affects me, and my family if things go to caca.
And I will not abide a threat to my supply of fresh Turbodog. That is unconscionable.

I doubt they're all part of the same aquifer. And the various cities around here have processed water. Major difference between the well water in the north and the crap in town.

 

[gunut]

Nomad, that last link has so much fail in it that it's not surprising that it came from UT lol.

 

[Jack]

Nomad, that last link has so much fail in it that it's not surprising that it came from UT lol.

What specifically was incorrect in that article?