Thanks to the 20 guys who gave me the same answer

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Cocked and locked is the only way to go. Incorporate the operation of the safety into your grip.

Art

Art don't say much but everything he say seems spot on.

When I establish the grip on a 1911 my right hand thumb rides the safety. Learn to grip the gun, work out your grip and you will be better and enjoy shooting it more. What Paul Gomez showed us has its merits. Right index (trigger) finger on ejection port helps me establish a better grip even though is more for safety. A win-win. It feels awkward at first because its a bit of a stretch to reach it, but it works.

I'm no expert, but I did beat a guy with a Glock at a bowling pin match.

Carrying a 1911 is not wrong but a Glock is hard to argue against. Getting past the Glock "safety" can be hard for guys used to traditional safeties. You need to spend time with any gun before carrying it.

I think part of attending classes it that the things read here get illustrated. Also different aspects come together and you get to see why your weapon manipulation (gun handling) can be your failure.

I once organized a 1911 night with a bunch of guys. You didn't have to have a 1911 but it was the theme. It was fun and everyone shot every gun there, which was also not a requirement. Really great night at the range.

 

[Gus McCrae]

That reminds me that I wanted to look up this post to show the OP.

Good Post, I'm going to read it more closely tonight.

 

[Gumbo]

That reminds me that I wanted to look up this post to show the OP.

That is rather informative.

 

[Hitman]

Au contraire my friend,

As BBQ pointed out.

Here this will help you better understand. Read it thoroughly.

http://www.sightm1911.com/Care/1911_conditions.htm

Did you read the above, was it helpful ?

 

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"Thanks to the 20 guys who gave me the same answer "

If that is how you saw the answers to your question then a lot was lost on you.

There is a wealth of knowledge here among some of the gentleman here. Maybe next time some of the knowledgable guys here won't waste your time.

 

[spanky]

There might be a reason why everyone gave you the same answer.

 

[SKYWLKR]

ETA: striker fired pistols such as glocks, XD's and sigmas are, essentially, "cocked" all of the time when loaded. You just can't see the working parts like on a 1911.

WHUT, you say? Maybe there should be exposed parts so you can see that the Glock is not "cocked", part of the trigger pull is pulling the striker back for momentum...


I don't like the 1911 for carry because the gun is sharp and needs dehorning , heavy and the safety is too easy to sweep off in holster and carry.

But to discount it for no de-coker ???

 

[Gumbo]

I'm confused. I was bascially closing down the thread, because my question was very thoroughly answer beyond my satisfaction.

 

[Rainman]

This is an old debate. No, walking around with a cocked hammer does not bother me.


ETA: striker fired pistols such as glocks, XD's and sigmas are, essentially, "cocked" all of the time when loaded. You just can't see the working parts like on a 1911.

Just saw this and wanted to say that a Glocks (and surely the others listed) striker is not under tension when a round is chambered.
It isn't until the trigger is being pulled that the striker goes back under spring tension.
Someone may have already addressed this, I didn't read the whole thread.

 

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I'm confused. I was bascially closing down the thread, because my question was very thoroughly answer beyond my satisfaction.

I took it the wrong way then. My apologies. It is worded so it could taken either way and your avatar pic doesn't help. (Made it sound reality show bitchy)

There are a lot of 1911 topics that you can get into more deeply that are touched upon in the answers. Some have cause week long debates on the internet.

Oh, God Carries a 1911 is what I've heard.

 

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You can't close a thread - it just keeps coming.

 

[Gumbo]

I took it the wrong way then. My apologies. It is worded so it could taken either way and your avatar pic doesn't help. (Made it sound reality show bitchy)

There are a lot of 1911 topics that you can get into more deeply that are touched upon in the answers. Some have cause week long debates on the internet.

Oh, God Carries a 1911 is what I've heard.

Youtube Hard Gay and you'll see why it's my avatar.

 

[oleheat]

If you carry a pistol, why would you need a hammer?

 

[Baldrik78]

Oh, God Carries a 1911 is what I've heard.

If he didn't, he would not have sent his saint, John Moses Browning, to guide us.

 

[BRLAShooter]

If you carry a pistol, why would you need a hammer?

ROFL

Oh, and I believe that, while glocks are 'cocked' until you pull on the trigger, XD's are cocked the moment you pull the slide back, and the only way to de-**** them is to try fire. Someone please educate me if I'm wrong.

 

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If you carry a pistol, why would you need a hammer?

"SIR, TO FACILITATE EXTRACTION OF JAMS, SIR"!!

Did he just say "JAM"?

 

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If he didn't, he would not have sent his saint, John Moses Browning, to guide us.

Whoa! I'm not trying to start a debate about what christians and atheist should or should not carry.

I think it was a Glock in the New testament - I think it is in a thread here on BS.com

 

[BRLAShooter]

God may carry a 1911, but the disciples all carried XD's... Cept for Judas... He had a Hi-Purnt...

 

[Hitman]

God may carry a 1911, but the disciples all carried XD's... Cept for Judas... He had a Hi-Purnt...

lol! Nice,

that should go in a sig.

 

[Rainman]

Oh, and I believe that, while glocks are 'cocked' until you pull on the trigger, XD's are cocked the moment you pull the slide back, and the only way to de-**** them is to try fire. Someone please educate me if I'm wrong.

Sigma is just like the Glock in that manner, not sure on the XD's, never had one or handled one. Being all made like the Glock I wouldn't see why the XD would operate differently. But I don't know that for sure on them. ?? I would like to know also.

When a round is chambered (slide racked) on a Glock, the firing pin (striker) is in the same position if there wasn't a round chambered and you dry fired it.
It isn't until you pull the trigger back that the trigger bar pulls the striker back, then it drops down out of the way and releases the striker at full trigger pull.

There was a site that I used to go to that had a working Glock picture, you could click on any part and see it in action. But it slips my mind what site it was.