Carry Pistols

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Great assessment! And the Nairobi incident is a good example. But statistically, that is very unlikely to happen in the US. Nonetheless, I am right there too; carrying this 19 and a spare mag with me EVERYWHERE I go; all day; all night; and while I sleep it is near by. If you want to know the truth, it's a pain in the ass. Too bad I know it's a damn necessity.

But I also make sure that my instant alarm is set when I am about to go to bed, and I avoid places where statistically I am more likely to encounter a predator, like; driving through suspect neighborhoods, dimly lit areas, walking distances too far for comfort, just being out in public after dark in general, etc. Like choosing to play Blackjack over all other betting games, because the odds are better.

Statistically, until it happened in Narobi, it had never happened in Kenya. I agree with making personal safety a lifestyle and taking a wholistic appraoch that includes things like pattern of life changes, but for me that approach will always include hoping for the best while being prepared for worst, within reason. To me the 19 is that reasonable preparedness. I also feel that most people who struggle to conceal a pistol like a 19 or even 17 would be able to do it fine if they picked the right holster, a real belt, and better understood dressing around a gun.

 

[Emperor]

Statistically, until it happened in Narobi, it had never happened in Kenya. I agree with making personal safety a lifestyle and taking a wholistic appraoch that includes things like pattern of life changes, but for me that approach will always include hoping for the best while being prepared for worst, within reason. To me the 19 is that reasonable preparedness. I also feel that most people who struggle to conceal a pistol like a 19 or even 17 would be able to do it fine if they picked the right holster, a real belt, and better understood dressing around a gun.

This^, without question in MY mind, is the most misunderstood aspect of CC by the masses that choose to. Shame too! It makes all the difference in the world.

 

[ajridgedell]

This isn't me, but this is pretty much the same:

No skinny jeans and sports bras for me.

When I'm not wearing a polo shirt, I'm wearing one of these: http://www.basspro.com/RedHead-Finley-River-Shirt-for-Men-Long-Sleeve/product/13102307012918/

This is a shot of when I was testing out a sheath for my EDC blade:

Buy the right belt and you won't have to worry about the weight. The belt in the picture is a cheapy Columbia belt, but I'm typically wearing an Ares Gear Ranger belt.

+1 here, I carry appendix with two mags all day everyday. My work is somewhat physical and I find minimal discomfort with good concealment right there, esp when having to bend over or squat down. Granted I carry a G36, but if I knew then what I know now I would have bought a midsize 9mm. I just wear regular cotton t-shirts and no one notices.

 

[DAVE_M]

This^, without question in MY mind, is the most misunderstood aspect of CC by the masses that choose to. Shame too! It makes all the difference in the world.

You mean, I won't be able to conceal my race gun in these clothes?

 

[Emperor]

You mean, I won't be able to conceal my race gun in these clothes?

Damn! You are a cutie!

 

[Jack]

Damn! You are a cutie!

That's not Dave, that's austin

 

[Emperor]

That's not Dave, that's austin

Now that you mention it!

 

[323MAR]

I either carry a 9mm P2000SK(P30 mag as a reload) with Ranger 147GR or a Glock 32 with XTP 147gr .357SIG. Sometimes I just put a Smith Mod 60 .357 with 125gr Sivertips in my pocket holster.
My Glock 20 10mm defends the house, but occasionally finds its way into my pants on the right hip.

 

[DAVE_M]

I either carry a 9mm P2000SK(P30 mag as a reload) with Ranger 147GR or a Glock 32 with XTP 147gr .357SIG. Sometimes I just put a Smith Mod 60 .357 with 125gr Sivertips in my pocket holster.
My Glock 20 10mm defends the house, but occasionally finds its way into my pants on the right hip.

I never did care much for 147gr loads. 115gr loads are extremely controllable and goes back to the saying of accurate shot placement, speed, & capacity over a larger bullet/caliber, more recoil, and less capacity.

 

[Jack]

I find that larger rounds produce a less snappy charge.

 

[Fred_G]

Until it gets really hot, will stick with my 1911 in .38 Super with spare mag. Might as well carry something that looks nice.

 

[Request Dust Off]

Isn't a Taurus Judge the best way to go? It's like getting hit with a bunch of 9mm all at the same time. Just hearing the hammer click back makes bad guys run.








Just kidding in case any of you don't get it.

 

[Fred_G]

Isn't a Taurus Judge the best way to go? It's like getting hit with a bunch of 9mm all at the same time. Just hearing the hammer click back makes bad guys run.









Just kidding in case any of you don't get it.

The problem with the Judge, is that you have to have the Jury approve the shot..

 

[rcm192]

The problem with the Judge, is that you have to have the Jury approve the shot..

And that cant happen without a upper frame mounted laser.

 

[Pas Tout La]

Good lord somebody delete the pic of the skinny jean guy.... .. It's just creepy. All least the other pics have weapons in them.

 

[323MAR]

I never did care much for 147gr loads. 115gr loads are extremely controllable and goes back to the saying of accurate shot placement, speed, & capacity over a larger bullet/caliber, more recoil, and less capacity.

I used to carry Corbon 115+p+ back when the old 147gr rounds over penetrated targets. The new 147gr rounds are much improved among the best right now.

 

[KnightWolf09]

Recently started using 115 gold dots in my SR9c (10+1). Before that is was the 147 Rangers. Just haven't found them as easily. Thought about trying the Winchester T & D line though.

Thinking about going to a Shield for the summer then up to a G23 for the fall (aka my birthday present) in which case I'd use the 180 Rangers I have.

 

[DAVE_M]

I used to carry Corbon 115+p+ back when the old 147gr rounds over penetrated targets. The new 147gr rounds are much improved among the best right now.

I'll have to pick some up and give it a go. I have a box or two of Hornady that I'd like to go through. The last batch of Critical Duty & Critical Defense was inconsistent. However, that was the only negative results that I have ever had with Hornady.

 

[Jack]

I never did care much for 147gr loads. 115gr loads are extremely controllable and goes back to the saying of accurate shot placement, speed, & capacity over a larger bullet/caliber, more recoil, and less capacity.

I think your experience with heavier grain bullets may be an outlier. This should explain why.

http://www.shootingtimes.com/reloading/power-factor-recoil-bullet-weight-gives-edge/

 

[DAVE_M]

I think your experience with heavier grain bullets may be an outlier. This should explain why.

http://www.shootingtimes.com/reloading/power-factor-recoil-bullet-weight-gives-edge/

That was a good read, and I would agree that even with the same power factor, how one perceives recoil will be different. I do prefer a faster "snappy" recoil, than the slower "push" recoil. That's why I gave up on 1911's and 45 in general.