Live From Louis! Day 3

[Tulse Luper]

What firearm(s) was Louis using?

 

[spanky]

Not yet, maybe we can meet at EAPS

Affirmative.

 

[swamper]

What happened after the backup gun drills? I left right before that because of the allergy crap. I really, really hated missing the last half of the last day.

 

[spanky]

What happened after the backup gun drills? I left right before that because of the allergy crap. I really, really hated missing the last half of the last day.

turning (target is behind you) drills and moving targets.

 

[kz45]

Thanks, I'm trying to learn as well, just wanted to know the reasons behind your post.
Now I know

 

[SpeedRacer]

What firearm(s) was Louis using?

He doesn't shoot while teaching. His demo gun is a Colt Commander that is completely, positively, absolutely rendered non-functional.

He daily carries a double-stack 1911 and an XD-45 compact.

 

[pntbllr228]

He doesn't shoot while teaching. His demo gun is a Colt Commander that is completely, positively, absolutely rendered non-functional.

He daily carries a double-stack 1911 and an XD-45 compact.

What kind of double stack 1911?

I disagree about the new shooter 1911 thing. Im a very new pistol shooter and I prefer a 1911 over every other pistol I have shot. Great trigger, points very naturally, and pretty simple to operate. A safety that is disabled when you properly grip the pistol is about as easy as it gets. The only drawback to a single stack 1911 is limited ammo. Also, I believe many 1911's jam at matches because people are trying to use as little powder as possible, have tighter and tighter tolerances, and tweak the guns so much. My factory 1911 with factory ammo has never even been cleaned and has never had a hiccup.


On another note, what was on that belt?

 

[pmarti3]

Guys, I had a great time and Louis' class really helped me out. I am pretty new to the game, yet my lack of experience did not prevent me from coming away with an incredible amount of useful info and techniques. We went through drills than are pretty much impossible to run anywhere else but at a class like that. You just can't do this stuff at a normal range. I agree with the rest of you guys that training is key and this class was easily worth $550. I definitely recommend it to anybody who gets the chance to take his class.

 

[spanky]

What kind of double stack 1911?

I disagree about the new shooter 1911 thing. Im a very new pistol shooter and I prefer a 1911 over every other pistol I have shot. Great trigger, points very naturally, and pretty simple to operate. A safety that is disabled when you properly grip the pistol is about as easy as it gets. The only drawback to a single stack 1911 is limited ammo. Also, I believe many 1911's jam at matches because people are trying to use as little powder as possible, have tighter and tighter tolerances, and tweak the guns so much. My factory 1911 with factory ammo has never even been cleaned and has never had a hiccup.


On another note, what was on that belt?

He's talking about the manual safety.

 

[pntbllr228]

He's talking about the manual safety.

Both safeties are disabled with a proper grip.

 

[scooterj]

Both safeties are disabled with a proper grip.

This is very dependant on the size and shape of the shooter's hand. People with short thumbs find it difficult to "ride" the thumb safety.
I'm not picking on Joe

 

[spanky]

Both safeties are disabled with a proper grip.

With a "proper" grip you still have to manually deactivate the thumb safety.

 

[aroundlsu]

My factory 1911 with factory ammo has never even been cleaned and has never had a hiccup.

You don't shoot enough.

 

[Narco]

You don't shoot enough.

He shoots it every Wednesday at Baker for IPSC practice. He speaks the truth. Although didn't Lloyd do some work to it?

 

[TxShooter]

Actually, he DID have some mechanical issues. Not in his shooting form/skill; it was very good, especially considering he is somewhat of a newbie pistol shooter.

I was next to him on Relay 1 all morning the second day, and he missed the safety numerous times, as well as having to clear the pistol completely after retracting the slide a bit too far doing a press-check. He mentioned that he had a Glock 19 at home in New Mexico, and wished he had brought it because this 1911 "wasn't working out" for him. That's when I offered him my spare G19; his accuracy improved greatly, and he had zero functioning /shooting problems after that.

I know this sort of information greatly annoys the 1911 fan-boys, and they usually respond with the standard flurry of excuses. Spare us that please; this fellow was, I think, seriously beginning to question himself... until he got that VolksPistole in his hands. Then he rocked and rolled.

Said 1911 fan-boys would be apoplectic if they heard Louis' comments on the "$5000 pimp guns" He went into a lot more detail than I would have expected... and told it EXACTLY like it is.

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Well, as owner of a 1911 pimp gun (not quite $5K, but it does have ivory grips and a sharkskin holster), I might be inclined to challenge him to a duel. Except I'd be too afraid he'd go for a preemptive strike while I was sleeping.

I like the 1911, but admit they don't work well for everybody. No need for excuses....if a Glock, SIG, S&W, or Colt breaks, I want to know how so I can make sure the same thing doesn't happen to mine.

 

[TxShooter]

[QUOTE Big bonedQUOTE]

Now wait just a damn minute! I happen to share that same frame size...I prefer "solid." How're we supposed to help it if some of y'all are little enough to fit women's extra-small T-shirts?

 

[pntbllr228]

He carries a custom 9mm double stack.

I love the 1911 - I've built two and for training or competition, it is my favorite platform. I've carried them as well. If there were real trouble, I wouldn't hesistate to pick up a 1911.

Now, that said -

The man that posted his well founded, hard earned opinion about the 1911 was using it as God and J Moses Browning intended before I was born. He has trained thousands of shooters for the state police. He has kicked in more doors on SWAT raids than 99% of this board every will in their most exciting wet dream, and that is a relatively boring part of his decorated career...

Hence, as a "very new" pistol shooter I'd use your ears (or eyes, as it were) more and mouth (fingers) less

In all seriousness, the 1911 is a fantastic platform but under real pressure, statistically, you are one million times more like to miss the grip safety or manual thumb safety on a 1911 than you are on, say, a Glock or a revolver.

Just a thought.

I just thought as a "new" pistol shooter, I might be able to offer input on what a great platform the 1911 is for "new" pistol shooters.

I gotcha though.

 

[Nolacopusmc]

He carries a custom 9mm double stack.

I love the 1911 - I've built two and for training or competition, it is my favorite platform. I've carried them as well. If there were real trouble, I wouldn't hesistate to pick up a 1911.

Now, that said -

The man that posted his well founded, hard earned opinion about the 1911 was using it as God and J Moses Browning intended before I was born. He has trained thousands of shooters for the state police. He has kicked in more doors on SWAT raids than 99% of this board every will in their most exciting wet dream, and that is a relatively boring part of his decorated career...

Hence, as a "very new" pistol shooter I'd use your ears (or eyes, as it were) more and mouth (fingers) less

In all seriousness, the 1911 is a fantastic platform but under real pressure, statistically, you are one million times more like to miss the grip safety or manual thumb safety on a 1911 than you are on, say, a Glock or a revolver.

Just a thought.

+1


I know Pntballer means well, but as a "new pistol shooter" what experience is your opinion based on? Shoot some more rounds on a few more platforms, and you will see. 1911 is definitely a tried and true platform, but it has its idiosyncrasies that many new shooters would be better tackling after they have mastered the fundamentals on a less sensitive "platform."

 

[smith625]

+1

 

[SpeedRacer]

He carries a custom 9mm double stack.

No, he doesn't. He carries a .45 double-stack. Para Ordnance frame, everything else old-fashioned Colt. Weren't you there when he and I were discussing it?

The rest of the post was spot on. You 1911 defenders need to simmer down. Nobody is knocking the 1911, this was completely situational.