I was working from memory, thanks. In the situation stated, perp breaking in to vehicle, "fears for his life" when owner appears with a gun, I would say the perp is the aggressor.
Neighborhood Watch St. Helena style
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I was working from memory, thanks. In the situation stated, perp breaking in to vehicle, "fears for his life" when owner appears with a gun, I would say the perp is the aggressor.
charliepapa
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This silly s**t isn't going to last!! There is so much that can wrong with this it's not even funny.
I commend the cavalier spirit in this idea, but do any of you really think this kind of neighborhood patrol is something the DOJ will bless. The ACLU is probably already preparing to file suit against somebody.
Guys in wife beater t-shirts carrying two guns at time, walking through other peoples yards, checking on what? To see if something presents an opportunity to shoot at in the name of a neighborhood watch?
Now since St Helena is basically a lawless Parish anyway; I believe the mayor, the sheriff, some council people, the jailer, etc. have all been indicted in the last 5 years over there for some impropriety in offfice, it might float for now.
But don't hold your breath too long.
I commend the cavalier spirit in this idea, but do any of you really think this kind of neighborhood patrol is something the DOJ will bless. The ACLU is probably already preparing to file suit against somebody.
Guys in wife beater t-shirts carrying two guns at time, walking through other peoples yards, checking on what? To see if something presents an opportunity to shoot at in the name of a neighborhood watch?
Now since St Helena is basically a lawless Parish anyway; I believe the mayor, the sheriff, some council people, the jailer, etc. have all been indicted in the last 5 years over there for some impropriety in offfice, it might float for now.
But don't hold your breath too long.
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alpinehyperlite
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Nope the "perp" isn't threatening any pokily harm on the guy with the gun. That example I was saying is like if the "neighborhood patrol" comes upon it. Thus making the car not even the aggressor's property. At that point it would easily make it justifiable to shoot the dude pointing the gun IMO.
xsilentxninjax
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pretty sure there have been court cases where a perp was breaking into a house got shot by the homeowner and sued and won. so why would this be any different. he feared for his life and shot.
In the now and now though, persons acting in self defense ( justifiable homicide ) are not liable for injuries visited on the perpetrator. Your scenario would probably be involved with the " Castle Doctrine " I forget the stat #
O BTW...I am another that believes the law SHOULD allow DF to prevent property theft or destruction.
highstandard40
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Now the sheriff in St. Helena says that anyone caught riding in a vehicle with an assault rifle will be arrested. OK, while I'm not on board with the citizen patrols, exactly what law would I be breaking if I were to be driving down the road with an AR in my truck?
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Where did you see that? Advocate? TV news?
Did you mean the St Helena sheriff in the Advocate article at http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/Assault-weapon-patrols-nixed.html?showAll=y&c=y ??
MEM wrote in the comments- "and not a peep out of the Louisiana open carry awareness league, LOL, as expected."
What does he expect LOCAL to say?
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I'd love to jump in there and post a comment but I've never been able to get registered at 2theadvocate. I don't know what the hell is wrong with their website but no matter what I do it won't register me with any email address or user name I try.
The thing is... this Neighborhood Watch and those in it being armed is nothing new. They formed up years ago and many of them are regularly armed. See THIS article from Febuary 2009-> http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/40014017.html?c=1292623667333 .
highstandard40
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That is the article I was referring to. What really bothered me the most was the sheriff's quote.
"Somebody with an assault weapon is no different from a criminal and will be treated the same way.”
What the hell is that about?
"Somebody with an assault weapon is no different from a criminal and will be treated the same way.”
What the hell is that about?
"It's about"............... a 90 IQ would be my guess.
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