Yes, lets spend exorbitant amounts of money while we are spiraling deeper into debt. I'd be willing to bet it would be cheaper to provide for more mental health facilities than train and post armed guards at every school in america.
Sandy Hook School shooting thread
- Thread starter chootem
- Start date
The Best online firearms community in Louisiana.
Member Benefits:
Fewer Ads! Discuss all aspects of firearm ownership Discuss anti-gun legislation Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses Discover free outdoor shooting areas View up to date on firearm-related events Share photos & video with other members ...and so much more!
Member Benefits:
Yes, lets spend exorbitant amounts of money while we are spiraling deeper into debt. I'd be willing to bet it would be cheaper to provide for more mental health facilities than train and post armed guards at every school in america.
Post reserve LE deputies/officers in those positions. After all, they're donating their time.
JR1572
We have the best trained military in the world, and even they cannot prevent things sometimes when they happen over in the sand-box. We are a country of hundreds of millions. Some messed up people are just going to slip through the cracks and do something like this. It's not good, it's not okay, and it's utterly disgusting and we need to always try harder, but human beings will never be perfect and living in a world of Nerf is not going to work, either. Someone would find a way to choke someone on a Nerf knife.
SpeedRacer
Well-Known Member
There's nothing you can do. I think there's more schools than there is full time police officers in my city. Arm the teachers? Sure, if they're trained and tested to at least POST standards. But that's just not gonna happen. And even if it did, I don't think it would greatly affect the outcome of an event like this.
The one common thread on all of these mass shootings is mental problems and/or psychiatric meds. Let's start looking there for a solution.
The one common thread on all of these mass shootings is mental problems and/or psychiatric meds. Let's start looking there for a solution.
Yesterday I read that the Bushmaster remained in the vehicle. Today I read on CNN that the handguns were rarely used (suicide) and almost all shooting was done with Bushmaster. Anyone know which is the story? Apparently the media is mixed up.
Gator 45/70
Well-Known Member
And so it begin's...
Who's with Texas !
http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG...008/08/15/us-texas-guns-idUSN1538661720080815
Who's with Texas !
http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG...008/08/15/us-texas-guns-idUSN1538661720080815
SpeedRacer
Well-Known Member
They also said he was his brother and that his mom was a teacher. They're trying so hard to be the first to deliver news they are abandoning any attempt at respectable journalism or fact checking.
The most recent I read, from the coroner, is that all gunshot wounds were from the .223 rifle. That seems to be the most legitimate source of info so far, but who knows. It'll probably still be days or weeks before the actual facts come together and paint the real story.
So it BEGAN you mean.....back in 2008. But still good news none the less.
Gator 45/70
Well-Known Member
True !!! ^^^
A lot of misinformation. "Reporters" and "Journalist" playing guessing games.
Medical examiner: Rifle primary weapon used in shootings
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc/50210025/#50210025
jussaddwata
Well-Known Member
I seen a report yesterday from the medical examiner and he said the primary weapon used was the (long gun).....his words not mine.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
I resisted a long time to posting in this thread and I think everyone missed my point.
1. Mass shootings only occur in places where guns are not "allowed". Risk of someone being armed obviously alters the crime triangle.
2. The Government cannot solve any problem efficiently.
.
Shall not be infringed is a pretty simple concept to me, and infringement has occurred.
1. Mass shootings only occur in places where guns are not "allowed". Risk of someone being armed obviously alters the crime triangle.
2. The Government cannot solve any problem efficiently.
.
Shall not be infringed is a pretty simple concept to me, and infringement has occurred.
1: crazy don't care. We can't stop suicide attacks overseas where everyone is armed and waiting for them.
2: neither can armed citizens. I'm all about armed, trained citizens but you can't interdict crazy.
Crazy happens. See last years rash of axe attacks on kids in china.
I'm confused about your last statement. I'm reading "armed citizens cannot stop these people either" but use an incident about a crazy guy in a country where there are no armed citizens to make your point. Can you clarify? Maybe I'm reading into it wrong.
SpeedRacer
Well-Known Member
Are you suggesting that Gun Free Zones are the cause of mass shootings? Or, that if there were no Gun Free Zones we wouldn't have these types of incidents?
Hypothetically, let's say there's no such thing as a GFZ. Some mentally whacked out kid in Connecticut comes to the conclusion that he wants to kill lots of innocent kids. Does he stay at home instead, his ambitions kept in check by the lack of GFZs?
Or, are you thinking that a teacher, a job notoriously filled by liberals, in a notoriously liberal state would be packing heat? And beyond on that unlikelihood, you're thinking he or she would have actually gone well beyond the average gun owner and actually gained the level of competance with a handgun to stand the slimmest of a chance in a gunfight against a crazed gunman with an AR-15?
Tonight I read that it was a shotgun left in the car, the Bushmaster used in the school. Journalism in America is dead.
Fixed it
Wow. Next time I will stay out.
I didn't say crime would be eliminated, didn't say a mass killing would never happen again or that a teacher could take on a skilled marksmen with an AR-15.
I said the crime triangle is altered by the risk of being confronted and the Government sucks at solving problems. If you disagree with that, then we disagree.
I didn't say crime would be eliminated, didn't say a mass killing would never happen again or that a teacher could take on a skilled marksmen with an AR-15.
I said the crime triangle is altered by the risk of being confronted and the Government sucks at solving problems. If you disagree with that, then we disagree.
SpeedRacer
Well-Known Member
I don't entirely disagree with that. Since you posted it in this thread, I assumed you were referring to the current topic and was curious how you felt it related, while my point is that it's not that simple. If you were just throwing out random off-topic rabble then I mostly agree with everything you said I just don't know why you'd post it here.
