What's your opinion of Bikers splitting traffic?

[03protege]

I've always thought about getting a motorcycle but I now realize I have no where near the emotional capacity to join such a elite few.


At least the Jeep guys shut up after they tell you how garbage Hummers are.

 

[jayd]

lol, there ya go Jay.
I guess some people just think "biker" no matter the motorcyclist. Never thought of myself as a "biker" though. I mean, I can't imagine myself showing up at the track or a bikenight dressed in hog leathers and toting a wallet chain..
And if it's all ego I guess I missed that part. All this time I thought I was riding for the sheer pleasure. Yep, that and because I can do anything I want on my motorcycle.

Zeal

I remember reading somewhere that Motorcyclists have a VERY high % of gun owners in their ranks
and in some ways they are alike
Firearms owners and Cyclists tend to be independent types who love their freedom
Both groups tend to be misunderstood by the general population
Both groups have people on the fringes who make the rest look bad by word or deed
Within these groups there tends to be a bit of elitism
ie, 2cd amendment types look down on fuds or vice versa
On the cycle side
Older riders dont care for the kids who ride over their heads and drop like flies, while those subgroups
thumb their noses at the cruiser types who dress up for bike night and drink alcohol, then ride after inbibing
Like I said, people are funny...

 

[king4456]

Has anyone ever been stuck in traffic for two hours on a bike geared up in 100 % humidity and 98 degrees? I have, and splitting lanes is the safer option than having a heat stroke while the people in their cars sit in the AC and bitch about us getting ahead of them. Cagers are usually the idiots. I try to be responsible while riding, but the best way not to get run over is to simply not be there. In other words you should alway move faster than traffic while on a bike. Works for me. Oh, and you should always get about a cool million in life insurance if you have a family and want to take risks like motorcycling or bungee jumping or skydiving or weekending in the greater NOLA area. You know the things that might get you killed.

 

[moe24]

What's your opinion of LOUISIANA Bikers splitting traffic?

Being that it is unlawful(In Louisiana) to do as well.

RS 32:191.1

Damn he did that **** like a boss lol.
If its legal to do that then I don't see y not i guess thats the advantage of having a motorbike.still dangerous though.

 

[jayd]

I've always thought about getting a motorcycle but I now realize I have no where near the emotional capacity to join such a elite few.
.

No need for emotional capacity.....you just need a few loose screws

 

[moe24]

Has anyone ever been stuck in traffic for two hours on a bike geared up in 100 % humidity and 98 degrees? I have, and splitting lanes is the safer option than having a heat stroke while the people in their cars sit in the AC and bitch about us getting ahead of them. Cagers are usually the idiots. I try to be responsible while riding, but the best way not to get run over is to simply not be there. In other words you should alway move faster than traffic while on a bike. Works for me. Oh, and you should always get about a cool million in life insurance if you have a family and want to take risks like motorcycling or bungee jumping or skydiving or weekending in the greater NOLA area. You know the things that might get you killed.

+1 I don't ride but this make sence

 

[Hitman]

Has anyone ever been stuck in traffic for two hours on a bike geared up in 100 % humidity and 98 degrees? I have, and splitting lanes is the safer option than having a heat stroke while the people in their cars sit in the AC and bitch about us getting ahead of them. Cagers are usually the idiots.

Not that you will but the whole "I'm hot", "I don't have A/C" double standard argument was bought up a while back and was left unaddressed.

No one forced you to ride in the heat without A/C. It was your free choice to do so. So you can't use it to argue that you now can break the law b/c your hot. You chose to be hot, suck it up.

 

[jayd]

If its legal to do that then I don't see y not i guess thats the advantage of having a motorbike.still dangerous though.

That kid is gonna do two things,
1. Blow his engine, revving it up without a load on it
2. Hurt himself and maybe others (eventually)

Like the pilots say, There are old pilots and bold pilots, but no old, bold pilots

 

[Jack]

Has anyone ever been stuck in traffic for two hours on a bike geared up in 100 % humidity and 98 degrees? I have, and splitting lanes is the safer option than having a heat stroke while the people in their cars sit in the AC and bitch about us getting ahead of them.

I got stuck in traffic trying to get out of san antonio texas, in a 1973 plymouth duster. It was august and I just had the windows tinted, so I couldn't roll them down. I really thought I was going to die lol

Yep, that and because I can do anything I want on my motorcycle.

Except defeating a prius in an accident

 

[Hitman]

I got stuck in traffic trying to get out of san antonio texas, in a 1973 plymouth duster. It was august and I just had the windows tinted, so I couldn't roll them down. I really thought I was going to die lol

You should have Lane Split....or at least got on the shoulder and passed everyone up while staying cooler(Both in Temprature and Status)

 

[Jack]

You should have Lane Split....or at least got on the shoulder and passed everyone up while staying cooler(Both in Temprature and Status)

I could be broke down on the shoulder, and still be cooler in that car . These guys on the crotch rockets cant match classic american muscle.

 

[king4456]

Ride in the heat is what you said. Not sit in the heat. Two totally different things. When riding I stay cool enough to be on the road. Sitting on the asphalt for two hours is not in your words "Riding" This is how I see your knowledge base and this is not an insult Hitman...Nutrition knowledge yes...gun knowledge somewhat...motorcycle knowledge...not so much. Riding a Harley and owning an absolute piece of crap Katana is like shooting a Nagant and owning a Hi Point. Experience with those two weapons wouldn't make you much of a gun expert would it? That's how you are viewed after displaying what you have experience riding in the motorcycle world. You've only scratched the surface of riding and all that is required to really ride a motorcycle. Feeling the suspension do its job when correctly set. Seeing tires that grip you and your bike at max lean angle on a patch of rubber the width of your finger all while dragging your knee puck for feel. Catching a tank slapper when you make a mistake and unload the suspension at speed. Getting on a bike and at the end of the day you have 800 more miles on the odometer than when you started. What I am really trying to get at is if you haven't really ever riden a bike, not comuted but really riden, then your opinion doesn't matter to me. I am not an elitist when refering to motorcycles, I just put myself in a position when riding to know as much as possible about the machine I am riding and what it can and can not do before I throw my leg over it, and risk my life with people texting while driving and playing with the radio yada yada yada they ain't paying attention. Splitting lanes is no more illegal than you driving 1 mile over the posted speed limit and everybody has done that so you are all dangerous LOL.

 

[vern10mm]

Ride in the heat is what you said. Not sit in the heat. Two totally different things. When riding I stay cool enough to be on the road. Sitting on the asphalt for two hours is not in your words "Riding" This is how I see your knowledge base and this is not an insult Hitman...Nutrition knowledge yes...gun knowledge somewhat...motorcycle knowledge...not so much. Riding a Harley and owning an absolute piece of crap Katana is like shooting a Nagant and owning a Hi Point. Experience with those two weapons wouldn't make you much of a gun expert would it? That's how you are viewed after displaying what you have experience riding in the motorcycle world. You've only scratched the surface of riding and all that is required to really ride a motorcycle. Feeling the suspension do its job when correctly set. Seeing tires that grip you and your bike at max lean angle on a patch of rubber the width of your finger all while dragging your knee puck for feel. Catching a tank slapper when you make a mistake and unload the suspension at speed. Getting on a bike and at the end of the day you have 800 more miles on the odometer than when you started. What I am really trying to get at is if you haven't really ever riden a bike, not comuted but really riden, then your opinion doesn't matter to me. I am not an elitist when refering to motorcycles, I just put myself in a position when riding to know as much as possible about the machine I am riding and what it can and can not do before I throw my leg over it, and risk my life with people texting while driving and playing with the radio yada yada yada they ain't paying attention. Splitting lanes is no more illegal than you driving 1 mile over the posted speed limit and everybody has done that so you are all dangerous LOL.

How often are you sitting in the heat for 2 hours?

Poor argument. We are talking about people splitting traffic at redlights and such.

No excuse for it that makes sense other than you are too special to wait.

 

[Jack]

Ride in the heat is what you said. Not sit in the heat. Two totally different things. When riding I stay cool enough to be on the road. Sitting on the asphalt for two hours is not in your words "Riding" This is how I see your knowledge base and this is not an insult Hitman...Nutrition knowledge yes...gun knowledge somewhat...motorcycle knowledge...not so much. Riding a Harley and owning an absolute piece of crap Katana is like shooting a Nagant and owning a Hi Point. Experience with those two weapons wouldn't make you much of a gun expert would it? That's how you are viewed after displaying what you have experience riding in the motorcycle world. You've only scratched the surface of riding and all that is required to really ride a motorcycle. Feeling the suspension do its job when correctly set. Seeing tires that grip you and your bike at max lean angle on a patch of rubber the width of your finger all while dragging your knee puck for feel. Catching a tank slapper when you make a mistake and unload the suspension at speed. Getting on a bike and at the end of the day you have 800 more miles on the odometer than when you started. What I am really trying to get at is if you haven't really ever riden a bike, not comuted but really riden, then your opinion doesn't matter to me.

I think youre confusing riding, with trying to be a street racer...

I am not an elitist when refering to motorcycles, I just put myself in a position when riding to know as much as possible about the machine I am riding and what it can and can not do before I throw my leg over it, and risk my life with people texting while driving and playing with the radio yada yada yada they ain't paying attention. Splitting lanes is no more illegal than you driving 1 mile over the posted speed limit and everybody has done that so you are all dangerous LOL.

A crime doesn't imply dangerous. If I smoke pot in my living room I'm far less dangerous to others than riding like I'm special.

I'm still waiting on someone in this thread to provide any backup to the I'm hot argument. You made a choice to do something that is sometimes uncomfortable, then you drive in a manner that puts others in undue harm, because you are uncomfortable. I know you think being in the sun is hot, its really not that bad. I work in attics for a living and I'm sure a lot of other people here do as well. I made that choice and this summer, just like every other summer, I nut up and deal with my choices. Is it too much to ask for others to do the same?

 

[Hitman]

I think youre confusing riding, with trying to be a street racer...

To say the least... lol That was an epic post by an Epic Ego Rider

So much for the freedom and spirit of riding. I thought it was about more than 'WHAT' you were riding.

I guess I never felt the REAL Biker freedom b/c my suspension wasn't set and my tire's never dealt with the pressure of MAX LEAN as they were on the verge of slipping but ever so close they did not, they held true....
LMAO!! No Tank slap or knee puck for me either. Me sad.....I missed out....

To thick for me now folks,

I'm out.....ZZzzzZZzzzz......

 

[VeedUp]

That is my point though, I cant find a reason to do it. I agree with you that bikers realize the danger in riding, but their actions effect other people. If we were debating wearing seatbelts, I would agree with your point entirely, but if I'm not wearing a seatbelt and fly out through the windshield, it doesn't really effect anyone else. If it has no real benefits and it puts other people in danger, it shouldn't be done.




That is odd, because I thought you said you've been brake checked. Its hard to brake check someone who isn't following too close. I'm so confused by your posts in this thread. The whole being brake checked, but never following close, throwing pennies, but never throwing pennies, I'm not a criminal but I disobey traffic laws and vandalize property. I dunno, I guess I'm just really confused at this point.

What ever makes you happy buttercup, but I've come up on people to pass between them and a car riding adjacent in the left lane and when they noticed me coming they would hit the brakes trying to stop me from passingllike I said it is what it isn't and they all are going to keep doing what they're doing and I'll keep doing what I do. I'm thinking about turning the 929 into a dedicated track bike and leaving the streets alone, I ve done theodds long enough. But when one of those ego tistical drivers rage out and actually kill someone on a scooter I hope they go jailing enough to get a cockmeat sandwich and they can sit back and ask themselves was it really worth not letting him pass.

Good night assholes

 

[Emperor]

Fairness is a part of it, everyone is supposed to be equal and nobody should have special privileges. But to me, the crux of the matter is that it is un-safe... Those yellow lines I'm riding between are my margin of error, they're my comfort zone, you have no place next to my vehicle within those lines. When you split traffic, you're adding risk to myself and my loved ones in the vehicle. After you pass me, you're risking other peoples' safety and my time if I have to wait for your accident to be cleared. Bottom line is that rules are there for a reason, if everyone followed them the world would be a better place.

I have sped read/speed read(I am too inebriated to know which is correct), this very informative and lively debate; and though I did not vote nor do I ride a motorcycle, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn Express; I do have to agree with this^!

My hate for everything and everyone in general is tempered by my love for everyone doing what they want as long as what they do doesn't endanger me or my loved ones!

 

[jayd]

. This is how I see your knowledge base ......

(You) Borrowing a Harley and owning an absolute piece of crap Katana is like shooting a Nagant and owning a Hi Point.

I am not an elitist when refering to motorcycles,

You ARE an elitist King,
Picking on Dew Rag wearing Harley Types and then making diparaging remarks about one of Suzukis best selling models back in the day

Shame on you

You're gonna go to biker hell for that, where you world will be full of
ole blue hair grammies who will suddenly turn in front of you without warning
Teens, texting, daring you to T-bone them
And roadrage passive aggressive types who are hellbent on killing
(read squish) you because you had the audacity to get in front of them by lane splitting

 

[Hitman]

What ever makes you happy buttercup, but I've come up on people to pass between them and a car riding adjacent in the left lane and when they noticed me coming they would hit the brakes trying to stop me from passingllike I said it is what it isn't and they all are going to keep doing what they're doing and I'll keep doing what I do. I'm thinking about turning the 929 into a dedicated track bike and leaving the streets alone, I ve done theodds long enough. But when one of those ego tistical drivers rage out and actually kill someone on a scooter I hope they go jailing enough to get a cockmeat sandwich and they can sit back and ask themselves was it really worth not letting him pass.

Good night assholes

Buttercup, the thing is 'WE' feel the same way about those types of 'Cagers'.

However that is NOT what this thread is about. It's not about 'Cagers' trying to kill bikers in a Road Rage fit.

It's about bikers who Lane Split>At a Red Light/Traffic Jam> When Vehicles are at a dead stop>LIKE THE OP Video.

Not passing, Not Lane Splitting at the speed limit, Not everyday riding or any other reason you guys can come up with to hate cagers even more. Just exactly like is seen in the OP Video.

I think that's why this thread got so far off track. The hate for cagers and the joke poll option threw it that way.

I'm sorry for the Joking Option, (And explained how it came to be) but eitherway it's just as easily a vote for the guy on the bike in the vid being an ******* for doing it(If he were doing it in Louisiana). and it's the opinion of whoever voted and obviously shows that it REALLY pisses people off. Of course I'm sure some folks actually got that it was a joke and voted that option accordingly.

I know I used to vote for whatever extreme annswer option Nolacopusmc would put in his many random polls LOL!

Anyway there's no way I can participate today as much as I did yesterday, it's been fun though.

Cheers!

 

[CEHollier]

Owning a physical therapy clinic is a real eye opener for someone considering getting a street bike. 99% of the motorcycle accident patients we have treated the accident was someone elses fault. It's hard to justify buying a motorcycle when you are treating someone missing their leg because a car pulled out in front of them. I have lots of motorcycle accident stories. The funniest motorcycle wreck story was a guy cruising down the highway in Mississsippi on his Harley when he spooked a buzzard. It knocked him off his bike (resulting in numerous orthopaedic surgeries). He said while he was being loaded into the ambulance a game warden shot the buzzard as it lay flopping in the ditch. I told him be glad that didn't happen in California. They would have shot him and loaded the buzzard in the ambulance.

A couple of years ago I was considering getting a Harley Wide Glide. Around that time a family member lost his life when a car pulled out in front of him on his bike. That and my personal experience treating MVA's put an end to my motorcycle purchase plans. Back in the day I owned two dirt bikes and raced motocross. No cars or SUV's on the track so wrecks were just bruises and scrapes.


That said. My personal opinion of lane splitting is there is a reason for the stripes on the highway. They are to divide lanes. When you chose to use the highway in a way it was not intended and it puts your health at risk that is one thing. When it endangers my family or my health that is another. I'm not anti biker. Just anti endangering peoples health.