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    DR.NUMBERS

    Addict of the Arcane Arts
    Jun 11, 2009
    422
    16
    Battin Rudge
    3 @ $60 or less ($75 w/transfer)
    2 @ $70 - $80 ($95 w/transfer)
    1 @ $80 - $100 ($115 w/transfer)

    No Chinese (unless condition is excellent)
     
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    schnugee

    Well-Known Member
    Apr 12, 2010
    102
    16
    Baton Rouge, LA
    In for 3

    In for 3 working rifles. I'm a free enterprise capitalist, so would like to pay as little as possible but am willing to pay what ever amount is necessary.

    Thank you SugarBug and BigJakeWelch for stepping up on this. Let's all express our grattitude to them by following the instructions in the post!

    God bless.
     

    zguinness

    Well-Known Member
    Mar 19, 2010
    359
    18
    Holden, LA
    I'd be in for 2 at $125 or less.

    ETA: Just heard from bigjake who has offered to do the transfers for the group. His fee is $15 per firearm. Please take that into account. Edit your responses if needed.

    Also, is it necessary to do a transfer if someone has a C&R license?



    Q: Does a license as a collector of curio or relic firearms authorize the collector to engage in the business of dealing in curios or relics?
    No. A collector’s license only enables the collector to transport, ship, receive, and acquire curios and relics in interstate or foreign commerce, and to make disposition of curios and relics in interstate or foreign commerce, to any other licensee, for the period stated on the license. A collector’s license does not authorize the collector to engage in a business required to be licensed under the Act. Therefore, if the acquisitions and dispositions of curios and relics by a collector brings the collector within the definition of a manufacturer, importer, or dealer, he shall qualify as such. A dealer’s license must be obtained to engage in the business of dealing in any firearms, including curios or relics.

    [18 U.S.C. 922(a) and 923(a)(1), 27 CFR 478.41(c)(d)]

    Q: What does “engaged in the business” mean?
    The term “engaged in the business,” as applicable to a firearms dealer, is defined as a person who devotes time, attention, and labor to dealing in firearms as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the repetitive purchase and resale of firearms, but such term shall not include a person who makes occasional sales, exchanges, or purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal collection or for a hobby, or who sells all or part of his personal collection of firearms.

    [27 CFR 478.11]



    So if someone with a C&R buys these and is only selling them for what he paid (NOT FOR A PROFIT) and this would qualify as an "occasional sale" does there need to be a transfer involved?
     

    Sugarbug

    Sugarbug don't care.
    Feb 5, 2012
    5,666
    36
    Slidell
    ...using C&R to circumvent the need of FFL transfers

    Although you would technically be able to receive them, at this point, because of Obama's EO, each rifle has to go through an FFL to be transferred. So I think we would have been safe to do as you're suggesting two weeks ago, but we cannot do that now. And I doubt you would want 10 counts of illegal transfer of a firearm laid on you, lol.

    I'm waiting on my C&R license right now and was considering waiting until that came in to organize a group buy, but the EO makes it pointless.


    Hmm.. apparently I'm wrong. However, I'm still not sure what exactly is "OK" when it comes to one person ordering 20 rifles and then just handing them out.

    Please take this conversation to the other thread, though, so this one can remain only for voicing participation.
     
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    JNieman

    Dush
    Jul 11, 2011
    4,743
    48
    Lafayette
    Although you would technically be able to receive them, at this point, because of Obama's EO, each rifle has to go through an FFL to be transferred. So I think we would have been safe to do as you're suggesting two weeks ago, but we cannot do that now. And I doubt you would want 10 counts of illegal transfer of a firearm laid on you, lol.

    I'm waiting on my C&R license right now and was considering waiting until that came in to organize a group buy, but the EO makes it pointless.
    If you have a C&R, it's my understanding that the dealer logs it out of his book, and I log it into mine, done and done.

    I'm unaware of any EO that had anything to do with changing anything to do with this group buy for anyone, let alone FFL03s.
     

    alfalfa

    Active Member
    Apr 9, 2012
    25
    1
    I'm in for two under $120 and three under $100. I have my C&R.
     
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