Don't call the cops if you're growing weed...

[John_]

That's some funny **** there, sli. Been there done that about a hundred years ago

 

[sliguns]

That's some funny **** there, sli. Been there done that about a hundred years ago

lol

 

[Magdump]

So, tax the hell out of it and give the people what they want... I thought this was a democracy where the elected officials are supposed to vote in favor of the majority? The majority says legalize it! Why not make a profit on the billions that is spent on it yearly and retain those dollars inside our border, instead of shipping that money to Mexico or Canada? Why not use it for it's medicinal purposes instead of using chemical prescriptions with damaging side effects and staggering addiction rates?

Not to mention the billions of tax dollars spent yearly trying to enforce laws that shouldn't be, people getting killed (both sides of the fence), and people incarcerated, further increasing the cost to the taxpayer.

 

[JeeperCreeper]

Not to mention the billions of tax dollars spent yearly trying to enforce laws that shouldn't be, people getting killed (both sides of the fence), and people incarcerated, further increasing the cost to the taxpayer.

True dat! While politicians line their pockets with big pharma $$

 

[DAVE_M]

Not to mention the billions of tax dollars spent yearly trying to enforce laws that shouldn't be, people getting killed (both sides of the fence), and people incarcerated, further increasing the cost to the taxpayer.

Most criminals who have been arrested and charged with marijuana possession were most likely arrested for other charges too.

I can think of a few dummies that recently got arrested near me, who not only had mara-joo-wanna, but also had cocaine and heroin. I don't recall the last time I heard of someone getting arrested for just smoking a joint, although it is possible. BTW, I highly suggest you pro-weed guys look at the laws regarding marijuana possession in Louisiana. Our jails are not filled with potheads...

 

[Firearmfanatic]

Not to mention the billions of tax dollars spent yearly trying to enforce laws that shouldn't be, people getting killed (both sides of the fence), and people incarcerated, further increasing the cost to the taxpayer.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This right here!
Ding, ding, ding, chicken dinner, we have a winner!
Money unneccessarily spent that would be better put to use elsewhere!

 

[Firearmfanatic]

BTW, I highly suggest you pro-weed guys look at the laws regarding marijuana possession in Louisiana. Our jails are not filled with potheads...

Dave, first I am not a pro-weed guy, I am a legalization/decriminalization weed guy. I do not partake in the "evil weed" but dont think it should be criminalized. As far as the jails filled with potheads, maybe not in your area, but in my area the jail population for weed possession is 80% if not more. The backwards thinking administration think that mary jane around here is more deadly than any other offense. They have not yet woken up to the reality of the present day issues. Besides, if the jail is full, they get more money from the state to house them.

 

[Whitebread]

Most criminals who have been arrested and charged with marijuana possession were most likely arrested for other charges too.

I can think of a few dummies that recently got arrested near me, who not only had mara-joo-wanna, but also had cocaine and heroin. I don't recall the last time I heard of someone getting arrested for just smoking a joint, although it is possible. BTW, I highly suggest you pro-weed guys look at the laws regarding marijuana possession in Louisiana. Our jails are not filled with potheads...

So how many drunk drivers were wearing belts when charged with DUI?
How many burglars were wearing ball caps?
Should belts and ball caps be illegal?

Should we devote a whole department of the DOJ to catching belts and ball cap smugglers?

You can't argue that something is wrong because occasionally other things your perceive as wrong occasionally occur at the same time.
I farted a minute ago and at the same time got a text message to my surprise the message didn't come from my backside.

 

[DAVE_M]

So how many drunk drivers were wearing belts when charged with DUI?
How many burglars were wearing ball caps?
Should belts and ball caps be illegal?

Should we devote a whole department of the DOJ to catching belts and ball cap smugglers?

You can't argue that something is wrong because occasionally other things your perceive as wrong occasionally occur at the same time.
I farted a minute ago and at the same time got a text message to my surprise the message didn't come from my backside.

Unlike ball caps, marijuana is illegal.

 

[alpinehyperlite]

Unlike ball caps, marijuana is illegal.

And a contributing factor to DWI.

 

[JeeperCreeper]

And a contributing factor to DWI.

How does smoking pot lead to drinking? I've never heard of a driving infraction handed out in LA because of marijuana influence/possession. If people are going to drink they're going to drink. I don't see what pot has do with it. I actually see it the opposite.

 

[AustinBR]

How does smoking pot lead to drinking? I've never heard of a driving infraction handed out in LA because of marijuana influence/possession. If people are going to drink they're going to drink. I don't see what pot has do with it. I actually see it the opposite.

DWI is driving while intoxicated. Smoking an illegal drug that makes you intoxicated, then driving, is breaking the law.

 

[alpinehyperlite]

How does smoking pot lead to drinking? I've never heard of a driving infraction handed out in LA because of marijuana influence/possession. If people are going to drink they're going to drink. I don't see what pot has do with it. I actually see it the opposite.

It doesnt. Driving while high is the same as driving while drunk.

§98. Operating a vehicle while intoxicated

A.(1) The crime of operating a vehicle while intoxicated is the operating of any motor vehicle, aircraft, watercraft, vessel, or other means of conveyance when any of the following conditions exist:

(a) The operator is under the influence of alcoholic beverages.

(b) The operator's blood alcohol concentration is 0.08 percent or more by weight based on grams of alcohol per one hundred cubic centimeters of blood.

(c) The operator is under the influence of any controlled dangerous substance listed in Schedule I, II, III, IV, or V as set forth in R.S. 40:964.

(d)(i) The operator is under the influence of a combination of alcohol and one or more drugs that are not controlled dangerous substances and that are legally obtainable with or without a prescription.

(ii) It shall be an affirmative defense to any charge under this Subparagraph that the label on the container of the prescription drug or the manufacturer's package of the drug does not contain a warning against combining the medication with alcohol.

(e)(i) The operator is under the influence of one or more drugs that are not controlled dangerous substances and that are legally obtainable with or without a prescription.

(ii) It shall be an affirmative defense to any charge under this Subparagraph that the operator did not knowingly consume quantities of the drug or drugs that substantially exceed the dosage prescribed by the physician or the dosage recommended by the manufacturer of the drug.

(2) A valid driver's license shall not be an element of the offense, and the lack thereof shall not be a defense to a prosecution for operating a vehicle while intoxicated.

B.(1) This Subsection shall be cited as the "Child Endangerment Law".

(2) When the state proves, in addition to the elements of the crime as set forth in Subsection A of this Section, that a minor child twelve years of age or younger was a passenger in the motor vehicle, aircraft, watercraft, vessel, or other means of motorized conveyance at the time of the commission of the offense:

(a) Except as provided in Subparagraphs (b) and (c) of this Paragraph, the execution of the minimum mandatory sentence provided by R.S. 14:98.1 or 98.2, as appropriate, shall not be suspended.

(b) Notwithstanding any provision of law to the contrary, if imprisonment is imposed pursuant to the provisions of R.S. 14:98.3, the execution of the minimum mandatory sentence shall not be suspended.

(c) Notwithstanding any provision of law to the contrary, if imprisonment is imposed pursuant to the provisions of R.S. 14:98.4, the execution of the minimum mandatory sentence shall not be suspended.

C.(1) For purposes of determining whether a defendant has a prior conviction for a violation of this Section, a conviction under any of the following shall constitute a prior conviction:

(a) R.S. 14:32.1, vehicular homicide.

(b) R.S. 14:32.8, third degree feticide.

(c) R.S. 14:39.1, vehicular negligent injuring.

(d) R.S. 14:39.2, first degree vehicular negligent injuring.

(e) A law of any state or an ordinance of a municipality, town, or similar political subdivision of another state that prohibits the operation of any motor vehicle, aircraft, watercraft, vessel, or other means of conveyance while intoxicated, while impaired, or while under the influence of alcohol, drugs, or any controlled dangerous substance.

(2) The determination under this Subsection shall be made by the court as a matter of law.

(3) For purposes of this Section, a prior conviction shall not include a conviction for an offense under this Section, a conviction for an offense under R.S. 14:39.1, or a conviction under the laws of any state or an ordinance of a municipality, town, or similar political subdivision of another state which prohibits the operation of any motor vehicle, aircraft, watercraft, vessel, or other means of conveyance while intoxicated, while impaired, or while under the influence of alcohol, drugs, or any controlled dangerous substance if committed more than ten years prior to the commission of the crime for which the defendant is being tried, and such conviction shall not be considered in the assessment of penalties in this Section. However, periods of time during which the offender was awaiting trial, under an order of attachment for failure to appear, or on probation or parole for an offense described in this Paragraph, or periods of time during which an offender was incarcerated in a penal institution in this or any other state for any offense, including an offense described in Paragraph (1) of this Subsection, shall be excluded in computing the ten-year period.

D.(1) On a conviction of a first offense violation of the provisions of this Section, notwithstanding any other provision of law to the contrary, the offender shall be sentenced under the provisions of R.S. 14:98.1.

(2)(a) Except as provided by Subparagraph (b) of this Paragraph, on a conviction of a second offense violation of the provisions of this Section, notwithstanding any other provision of law to the contrary and regardless of whether the second offense occurred before or after the first conviction, the offender shall be sentenced under the provisions of R.S. 14:98.2.

(b) If the conviction of a second offense violation of the provisions of this Section when the first offense was for the crime of vehicular homicide in violation of R.S. 14:32.1, third degree feticide in violation of R.S. 14:32.8, or first degree vehicular negligent injuring in violation of R.S. 14:39.2, the offender shall be sentenced under the provisions of R.S. 14:98.2(D).

(3) On a conviction of a third offense violation of the provisions of this Section, notwithstanding any other provision of law to the contrary and regardless of whether the offense occurred before or after an earlier conviction, the offender shall be sentenced under the provisions of R.S. 14:98.3.

(4) On a conviction of a fourth or subsequent offense violation of the provisions of this Section, notwithstanding any other provision of law to the contrary and regardless of whether the fourth or subsequent offense occurred before or after an earlier conviction, the offender shall be sentenced under the provisions of R.S. 14:98.4.

E. The legislature hereby finds and declares that conviction of a third or subsequent offense of operating while intoxicated is presumptive evidence of the existence of a substance abuse disorder that poses a serious threat to the health and safety of the public. Further, the legislature finds that there are successful treatment methods available for treatment of addictive disorders.

F.(1) On a third or subsequent conviction of operating while intoxicated pursuant to this Section, in addition to any other sentence, the court shall order, upon motion of the prosecuting district attorney, that the vehicle being operated by the offender at the time of the offense be seized and impounded, and be sold at auction in the same manner and under the same conditions as executions of writs of seizure and sale as provided in Book V, Title II, Chapter 4 of the Code of Civil Procedure.

(2) The vehicle shall be exempt from sale if it was stolen, or if the driver of the vehicle at the time of the violation was not the owner and the owner did not know that the driver was operating the vehicle while intoxicated. If this exemption is applicable, the vehicle shall not be released from impoundment until such time as towing and storage fees have been paid. In addition, the vehicle shall be exempt from sale if all towing and storage fees are paid by a valid lienholder.

(3) If the district attorney elects to forfeit the vehicle, he shall file a written motion at least five days prior to sentencing, stating his intention to forfeit the vehicle. When the district attorney elects to forfeit the vehicle, the court shall order it forfeited.

(4) The proceeds of the sale shall first be used to pay court costs and towing and storage costs, and the remainder shall be allocated as follows:

(a) Sixty percent of the funds shall go to the arresting agency.

(b) Twenty percent of the funds shall go to the prosecuting district attorney.

(c) Twenty percent of the funds shall go to the Louisiana Property and Casualty Insurance Commission for its use in studying ways to reduce drunk driving and insurance rates.

G.(1) If an offender placed on probation for a conviction of a violation of this Section fails to complete the required substance abuse treatment, or fails to participate in a driver improvement program, or violates any other condition of probation, including conditions of home incarceration, his probation may be revoked, and he may be ordered to serve the balance of the sentence of imprisonment, without credit for time served under home incarceration.

(2) If the offender is found to be in violation of both the terms of his release for good behavior by the Department of Public Safety and Corrections, committee on parole, and in violation of his probation by the court, then the remaining balance of his diminution of sentence shall be served first, with the previously suspended sentence imposed by the court to run consecutively thereafter.

Amended by Acts 1991, No. 83, §1; Acts 1991, No. 454, §1; Acts 1992, No. 69, §1; Acts 1992, No. 679, §1; Acts 1992, No. 697, §1; Acts 1993, No. 247, §1, eff. June 2, 1993; Acts 1993, No. 403, §1; Acts 1993, No. 669, §1, eff. June 21, 1993; Acts 1994, 3rd Ex. Sess., No. 20, §1; Acts 1995, No. 316, §1, eff. June 16, 1995; Acts 1995, No. 520, §1; Acts 1997, No. 1296, §2, eff. July 15, 1997; Acts 1998, 1st Ex. Sess., No. 4, §1; Acts 1999, No. 1292, §1; Acts 2000, 1st Ex. Sess., No. 81, §1, eff. April 17, 2000; Acts 2000, 1st Ex. Sess., No. 139, §1; Acts 2001, No. 781, §1, eff. Sept. 30, 2003; Acts 2001, No. 1163, §2; Acts 2003, No. 535, §1; Acts 2003, No. 752, §1, eff. Sept. 30, 2003; Acts 2004, No. 762, §1; Acts 2005, No. 497, §1; Acts 2007, No. 227, §1; Acts 2008, No. 161, §1; Acts 2008, No. 451, §2, eff. June 25, 2008; Acts 2008, No. 640, §1; Acts 2010, No. 801, §1, eff. June 30, 2010; Acts 2012, No. 547, §1, eff. June 5, 2012; Acts 2012, No. 571, §1; Acts 2013, No. 388, §2, eff. June 18, 2013; Acts 2014, No. 175, §1; Acts 2014, No. 385, §1, eff. Jan. 1, 2015; Acts 2014, No. 386, §1, eff. May 30, 2014.

 

[Whitebread]

Unlike ball caps, marijuana is illegal.

Yeah at one point it was illegal for civilians to own firearms on this continent.

 

[Whitebread]

And a contributing factor to DWI.

Just like the car, truck, SUV, lawn mower, go cart, and I believe in Texas (maybe here) a horse.

The equipment, animal, or supplement is not to blame the idiot who gets behind the wheel or in the saddle is to blame.

 

[JeeperCreeper]

DWI is driving while intoxicated. Smoking an illegal drug that makes you intoxicated, then driving, is breaking the law.

I've never heard of it being enforced...

I hope alpine didn't expect me to read all that, I would have taken his word on it.

 

[alpinehyperlite]

I've never heard of it being enforced...

I hope alpine didn't expect me to read all that, I would have taken his word on it.

I bolded out the important part for you.

 

[JeeperCreeper]

I bolded out the important part for you.

gotcha, I believed that would have been a DUI... I still never heard of anyone being arrested for driving while high.

 

[alpinehyperlite]

gotcha, I believed that would have been a DUI... I still never heard of anyone being arrested for driving while high.

I used to do it all the time before i was made supervisor. Same process as alcohol with the exception of the breath test. Its still given to rule out alcohol, but a **** or blood test is usually requested. DRE Certification also helps immensely with getting conviction and ive never lost a case yet out of hundreds of DWI's.

 

[alpinehyperlite]

and youve probably never heard of it because the same statute/charge is used for alcohol and drugs.