Hawthorne police kill dog while arresting dog's owner for video recording them

[charlie12]

If you don't want the apples don't shake the tree.

 

[MikeR]

Speculation. But I disagree, either way.

Partially, yes...and for a reason.

To include other responses...

about they were just trying to grab the leash. If that were the case, then the officer needs to be suspended until he finds his brain. Must not be too smart to reach out at a stressed, larger breed animal.

A confused dog (it's body language and behavior show that it's conflicted) that is unsure what is going on with its master is approached rapidly by a stranger (dogs don't understand badges and uniforms) who reaches out at it. The dog shows both aggression and confusion and makes feigns, then it's shot. The officer, just as easily could've not approached the dog so rapidly, pepper sprayed the animal, and avoided an incident/law suit.

I see a lot of justification going on in this thread for bad choices... on both sides, but mainly on one. I'm not part of the clique, neither pro nor anti LEO, just an everyday guy with a military background and a history of training working dogs for sport, narcotics, and apprehension.

BTW, it's kind of hard to claim moral superiority when you call people with a differing viewpoint names or post silly, little MEMEs like 13 year olds...it's sad that grown men resort to such trashy behavior, then demand you respect their OPINION as the only correct answer.

 

[geoney]

About as nuts as a cop that makes aggressive moves on a Rottweiler to get it to respond so he can shoot it.

Please read your post out loud so you can actually hear how foolish it sounds, never mind how clearly in conflict with the video evidence.

 

[sloppy joe]

the more of those types of dogs killed the better. i say ban them and put them all down. good job officer and excellent shooting.

 

[sloppy joe]

hey i want the job of putting them down. ma pleasure. bra.

 

[MOTOR51]

Partially, yes...and for a reason.

To include other responses...

about they were just trying to grab the leash. If that were the case, then the officer needs to be suspended until he finds his brain. Must not be too smart to reach out at a stressed, larger breed animal.

A confused dog (it's body language and behavior show that it's conflicted) that is unsure what is going on with its master is approached rapidly by a stranger (dogs don't understand badges and uniforms) who reaches out at it. The dog shows both aggression and confusion and makes feigns, then it's shot. The officer, just as easily could've not approached the dog so rapidly, pepper sprayed the animal, and avoided an incident/law suit.

I see a lot of justification going on in this thread for bad choices... on both sides, but mainly on one. I'm not part of the clique, neither pro nor anti LEO, just an everyday guy with a military background and a history of training working dogs for sport, narcotics, and apprehension.

BTW, it's kind of hard to claim moral superiority when you call people with a differing viewpoint names or post silly, little MEMEs like 13 year olds...it's sad that grown men resort to such trashy behavior, then demand you respect their OPINION as the only correct answer.

Holy ****, we are so lucky. We now have another lawyer, dog expert, and police tactics analyzer. Can you please tell us exactly how the police should have conducted themselves one more time? Also, could you please tell me how these tactics have worked for you in similar situations? Thanks


MOTOR51

 

[JR1572]

Partially, yes...and for a reason.

To include other responses...

about they were just trying to grab the leash. If that were the case, then the officer needs to be suspended until he finds his brain. Must not be too smart to reach out at a stressed, larger breed animal.

A confused dog (it's body language and behavior show that it's conflicted) that is unsure what is going on with its master is approached rapidly by a stranger (dogs don't understand badges and uniforms) who reaches out at it. The dog shows both aggression and confusion and makes feigns, then it's shot. The officer, just as easily could've not approached the dog so rapidly, pepper sprayed the animal, and avoided an incident/law suit.

I see a lot of justification going on in this thread for bad choices... on both sides, but mainly on one. I'm not part of the clique, neither pro nor anti LEO, just an everyday guy with a military background and a history of training working dogs for sport, narcotics, and apprehension.

BTW, it's kind of hard to claim moral superiority when you call people with a differing viewpoint names or post silly, little MEMEs like 13 year olds...it's sad that grown men resort to such trashy behavior, then demand you respect their OPINION as the only correct answer.

I'm convinced that I'm the only non-instructor/non-expert on this forum.

JR1572

 

[JR1572]

Holy ****, we are so lucky. We now have another lawyer, dog expert, and police tactics analyzer. Can you please tell us exactly how the police should have conducted themselves one more time? Also, could you please tell me how these tactics have worked for you in similar situations? Thanks


MOTOR51

I know. I'm so glad we have another expert who can tell us all that is wrong in the world.

JR1572

 

[andimthejr]

 

[mcinfantry]

i bet i could find his certificate of expertise.... just saying

 

[MOTOR51]

i bet i could find his certificate of expertise.... just saying

Print it please


MOTOR51

 

[Jack]

Holy ****, we are so lucky. We now have another lawyer, dog expert, and police tactics analyzer. Can you please tell us exactly how the police should have conducted themselves one more time? Also, could you please tell me how these tactics have worked for you in similar situations? Thanks


MOTOR51

Or where he gained all of these qualifications. He can be upset about people posting memes all he wants, the fact is he is another idiot with no real knowledge of the topic at hand. The hypocrisy of calling other people's comments trashy, while saying someone he has never met had a premeditated thought to kill a dog and acted it out, is amazing.

 

[oppsImissed]

Wait a minute here. Kill all those types of dogs? What type would that be? Are you refering to my 9 year old rotty that sleeps on the couch all day? Just what type are you talking about?

 

[returningliberty]

Wait a minute here. Kill all those types of dogs? What type would that be? Are you refering to my 9 year old rotty that sleeps on the couch all day? Just what type are you talking about?

Don't bother. ******* is trolling you.

 

[JNieman]

hey i want the job of putting them down. ma pleasure. bra.

Practice on yourself.

 

[MikeR]

Thanks for proving my point in such short order.

BTW, I never claimed to be an expert in anything, just said I had experience training working dogs... but thanks for playing, Vanna has some nice gifts by the reception area.

 

[returningliberty]

This video really made me sad. I love dogs. As a lot of you know my family does the dog rescue thing (no, we can't take any more, we're full). I'm going to say right off it was not the dog's fault. He wasn't even being aggressive, that dog was confused and being defensive while trying to protect his owner. The cop freaked him out more by trying to control him with the leash (not a good idea), but how is the cop supposed to know what to do with a big scary looking dog that's freaking out and will probably bite him? IMO he made a more than reasonable effort to control the dog before he felt like he was forced to shoot him to protect himself.

That SOB got his beautiful dog killed because he failed to secure him in the car. The fact that his big mouth caused the situation (debate the civil rights violations all you want, that's not what i'm getting at) can't be negated either. Owner's fault, very sad and unnecessary shoot; made unavoidable because Owner could have prevented it by locking up his dog before he decided to cause a confrontation with police.

 

[Skiney]

I know nothing MYSELF lol

I'm convinced that I'm the only non-instructor/non-expert on this forum.

JR1572

Uh your not the only one non-instructor/non-expert lol

See my expertise below :}

 

[Jack]

Thanks for proving my point in such short order.

BTW, I never claimed to be an expert in anything, just said I had experience training working dogs... but thanks for playing, Vanna has some nice gifts by the reception area.

Does that expertise extend to psychic visions? How can you presume the officers intent? What do I need to major in to gain that ability?

 

[MOTOR51]

Thanks for proving my point in such short order.

BTW, I never claimed to be an expert in anything, just said I had experience training working dogs... but thanks for playing, Vanna has some nice gifts by the reception area.

Your profile says Ur an offshore mechanic. I've had experience offshore fishing so let me know when you need help doing your job.


MOTOR51