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How is this legal? 40 cars stopped and 20 innocent people handcuffed...
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what he said
Now you know why I rarely get involved with discussions on this board anymore.
Between the "constitutionalists", the "cops are always wrong" bunch, those who think Ron Paul EVER had a chance of becoming president, and the plain whack jobs... much of this place simply depresses me these days.
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P.S.: Thanks for the tip re that Emdom sling; she's strapped up as we speak. Your item will be enroute back to you shortly.
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You left off "the cops are never wrong" and "the Gov't is never to be
Accused unless its anti-Dem or anti-Obama" crowd.
Objectivity he has not got it.
LOL!
i don't know. if i take the story at face value, it sounds excessive to me. if i take kony2010 at face value it sounds like a good cause. if i take free healthcare at face value it sounds good.
i am hoping to read the followup on exactly why and how it happened and hope something is done if it was really this stupid.
Thank you, friend. The sentiment does not seem to be shared by all.
It's amazing how you and I don't agree on things, however we act like civilized people. Some people should strive to be like us...
Or not.
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This is typical. Your response suggests that people such as myself think that all work that police do is tyranny. This of course is not true. It is easy to picture Mjolnir wearing a "tinfoil hat" and throw comments like "Sovereign Citizen" out there. It is the tendency of the simple minded or those who choose not to think for themselves to think this way. All you have to do is look objectively at what is going on around you to see the truth.
No... it doesn't... his response suggests he is defending police work, not tyranny.
No, it is the tendency of the simple minded to repeatedly comment on others being simple minded. People like you come on to forums and make post after post after post on the same basic thing. The police are bad in x instance. While I have no problem believing that the police can and have done bad things, I simply don't possess your level of bias, and I was wondering what caused this? Do you have some direct experience where law enforcement wronged you repeatedly?
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I am A law abiding citizen who has never been arrested in my life short of speeding tickets. I have been Wronged by an over zealous police officer and as a result, of that admittedly my opinions of LE have changed. I do not think as a whole LEOs are bad, not at all. I do however believe they should be judged to a higher standard given the "power" they have been granted by the government. I do also believe that with some LEOs a sort of metamorphosis occurs where for some reason they think they "ARE THE LAW". This IMHO is dangerous and what gives LEOs a bad name.
This is a good recent example .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyYlRZAdPGk
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If you don't have an issue with all LEOs, why do you attack LEOs in nearly every thread about them? You say they should be judged to a higher standard, however I think all men are equal under the law. Maybe this is the issue, perhaps your expectations are too high to be reached. You can't expect people to make the perfect decision in every situation. In this situation I would say they made a good call overall, but were bad in the details. They were too heavy handed in the execution, but I believe they were justified in stopping and questioning them.
Absolutely. Stopping those folks was just good, on the ball police work. They must have been on the scene remarkably fast.
But, I would love to hear the explanation of "probable cause" to SEIZE the 20 something woman with child for 2 hours, while looking for a man who robbed a bank. Gonna need a brand new pair of tap shoes.
You mean "reasonable suspicion" right? At the point an officer has probable cause for something they have enough to arrest somebody.
No tap shoes needed.
Thank you, sir. Unreasonable seizure it is. Tap shoes needed.
Probable cause relates to issuance of warrants.
Probable cause relates to issuance of warrants AND warrantless arrests. Reasonable suspicion is whats required to stop and detain somebody under terry v ohio. Was two hours excessive? Quite possibly, i wasnt there. I dont think the pd is going to suffer any consequences though over what happened.
