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    MOTOR51

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    It's absolutely on the owners.
    That's why I took pics first.
    As of right now the owners have no idea what their animals are up to, that's a big part of the problem. When I bring it to their attention, they need to correct the problem ASAP.

    Exactly.


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    general mills

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    Works well for cats and dogs
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    It doesn't taste the same anymore, used to be really sweet. now kind of bitter, I think it was changes to save condors and hobo's and housepets and such.
     

    Armed Mage

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    I have literally been told by a Sheriff that if at any time someone's animals come onto my property shoot them, don't even think about it.

    Bad idea. Aside from being a total dick move, killing someone's pet tends to send even the most patient people into a flying rage. There's been more than one instance where neighbors have killed each other over this kind of ****.

    Just like with humans, don't shoot someone's dog unless they pose an immediate threat to your own pets or another person.
     

    Fred_G

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    As far as shooting pets, I would like to think my neighbor would not shoot my dog if he got loose somehow. And if my dog got loose and damaged my neighbor's property, I would be fixing/replacing said property ASAP.
     

    bsoileau24

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    I had issues with stay dogs digging under a fence. They always went to the same spot and sniffed the dirt so i gave them something to smell. I covered the ground where they were digging with red pepper. They never dug again and stayed far away from the fence.
     

    Crimson

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    I have to ask, how do you know it tastes different? :eek3:

    They have changed something in it, it's definitely not sweet. I'm a mechanic and I've ended up tasting antifreeze, oil, transmission fluid all of it, None of taste good. Usually ends up on my arm and in my mouth when wipe off sweat or splatters when it drains. But I bring my dog to the shop all the time. I was hesitant at first but he smells it and moves on.
     

    Jack

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    Either way, poisoning them is a ****ed up thing to do and it shouldn't be advocated here, same applies to shooting them, feeding them broken glass, etc.
     
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    screamingdemon

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    The fact someone would suggest poisoning or shooting someone's potential lost pet is sick as well as disturbing on several levels. I've had my dog get loose before and rest assure if someone shot my dog/poisoned him and I found out they can rest assure they'll be in a world of hurt. Repell the dog in a nonviolent way, take pics of the animals, and post pics on Facebook in hopes their owner is friends with you on there. Hell if you can, take them in to keep them safe. Show some compassion instead of being so heartless.
     

    JR1572

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    Either way, poisoning them is a ****ed up thing to do and it shouldn't be advocated here, same applies to shooting them, feeding them broken glass, etc.

    It's also illegal.

    The statutes are posted below...

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    §102. Definitions; cruelty to animals

    The following words, phrases, and terms as used in R.S. 14:102.1 through R.S. 14:102.4 shall be defined and construed as follows:

    (1) "Cruel" means every act or failure to act whereby unjustifiable physical pain or suffering is caused or permitted.

    (2) "Abandons" means to completely forsake and desert an animal previously under the custody or possession of a person without making reasonable arrangements for its proper care, sustenance, and shelter.

    (3) "Proper food" means providing each animal with daily food of sufficient quality and quantity to prevent unnecessary or unjustifiable suffering by the animal.

    (4) "Proper water" means providing each animal with daily water of sufficient quality and quantity to prevent unnecessary or unjustifiable suffering by the animal.

    (5) "Proper shelter" means providing each animal with adequate shelter from the elements as required to prevent unnecessary or unjustifiable suffering by the animal.

    (6) "Proper veterinary care" means providing each animal with veterinary care sufficient to prevent unnecessary or unjustifiable physical pain or suffering by the animal.

    (7) "Livestock" means cattle, sheep, swine, goats, horses, mules, burros, asses, other livestock of all ages, farm-raised cervidae species, and farm-raised ratite species.

    (8) "Public livestock exhibition" means any place, establishment, or facility commonly known as a "livestock market", "livestock auction market", "sales ring", "stockyard", or the like, operated for compensation or profit as a public market for livestock, consisting of pens, or other enclosures, and their appurtenances, in which livestock are received, held, sold, or kept for sale or shipment. "Public livestock exhibition" also means any public exhibition or sale of livestock or a livestock show.

    (9) "Tampers" means any of the following:

    (a) The injection, use, or administration of any drug or other internal or external administration of any product or material, whether gas, solid, or liquid, to livestock for the purpose of concealing, enhancing, transforming, or changing the true conformation, configuration, condition, natural color, or age of the livestock or making the livestock appear more sound than they actually are.

    (b) The use or administration, for cosmetic purposes, of steroids, growth stimulants, or internal artificial filling, including paraffin, silicone injection, or any other substance.

    (c) The use or administration of any drug or feed additive affecting the central nervous system of the livestock, unless administered or prescribed by a licensed veterinarian for the treatment of an illness or an injury.

    (d) The use or administration of diuretics for cosmetic purposes.

    (e) The surgical manipulation or removal of tissue so as to change, transform, or enhance the true conformation, configuration, or natural color of the livestock unless the procedure is considered an accepted livestock management practice.

    Amended by Acts 1982, No. 431, §1; Acts 1997, No. 461, §2.

    §102.1. Cruelty to animals; simple and aggravated

    A.(1) Any person who intentionally or with criminal negligence commits any of the following shall be guilty of simple cruelty to animals:

    (a) Overdrives, overloads, drives when overloaded, or overworks a living animal.

    (b) Torments, cruelly beats, or unjustifiably injures any living animal, whether belonging to himself or another.

    (c) Having charge, custody, or possession of any animal, either as owner or otherwise, unjustifiably fails to provide it with proper food, proper drink, proper shelter, or proper veterinary care.

    (d) Abandons any animal. A person shall not be considered to have abandoned an animal if he delivers to an animal control center an animal which he found running at large.

    (e) Impounds or confines or causes to be impounded or confined in a pound or other place, a living animal and fails to supply it during such confinement with proper food, proper drink, and proper shelter.

    (f) Carries, or causes to be carried, a living animal in or upon a vehicle or otherwise, in a cruel or inhumane manner.

    (g) Unjustifiably administers any poisonous or noxious drug or substance to any domestic animal or unjustifiably exposes any such drug or substance, with intent that the same shall be taken or swallowed by any domestic animal.

    (h) Injures any animal belonging to another person.

    (i) Mistreats any living animal by any act or omission whereby unnecessary or unjustifiable physical pain, suffering or death is caused to or permitted upon the animal.

    (j) Causes or procures to be done by any person any act enumerated in this Subsection.

    (2)(a) Whoever commits the crime of simple cruelty to animals shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars, or imprisoned for not more than six months, or both.

    (b) Whoever commits a second or subsequent offense of simple cruelty to animals shall be fined not less than five thousand dollars nor more than twenty-five thousand dollars or imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not less than one year nor more than ten years, or both. In addition, the court shall issue an order prohibiting the defendant from owning or keeping animals for a period of time deemed appropriate by the court.

    (c) In addition to any other penalty imposed, a person who commits the crime of cruelty to animals shall be ordered to perform five eight-hour days of court-approved community service. The community service requirement shall not be suspended.

    (d) In addition to any other penalty imposed, the court may order a psychological evaluation or anger management treatment for a first conviction of the crime of simple cruelty to animals. For a second or subsequent offense of the crime of simple cruelty to an animal, the court shall order a psychological evaluation or anger management treatment. Any costs associated with any evaluation or treatment ordered by the court shall be borne by the defendant.

    (3) For purposes of this Subsection, if more than one animal is subject to an act of cruel treatment by an offender, each act shall constitute a separate offense.

    B.(1) Any person who intentionally or with criminal negligence tortures, maims, or mutilates any living animal, whether belonging to himself or another, shall be guilty of aggravated cruelty to animals.

    (2) Any person who tampers with livestock at a public livestock exhibition or at a private sale shall also be guilty of aggravated cruelty to animals.

    (3) Any person who causes or procures to be done by any person any act designated in this Subsection shall also be guilty of aggravated cruelty to animals.

    (4) Any person who intentionally or with criminal negligence mistreats any living animal whether belonging to himself or another by any act or omission which causes or permits unnecessary or unjustifiable physical pain, suffering, or death to the animal shall also be guilty of aggravated cruelty to animals.

    (5) In addition to any other penalty imposed for a violation of this Subsection, the offender shall be ordered to undergo a psychological evaluation and subsequently recommended psychological treatment and shall be banned by court order from owning or keeping animals for a period of time deemed appropriate by the court. Any costs associated with any evaluation or treatment ordered by the court shall be borne by the defendant.

    (6) Whoever commits the crime of aggravated cruelty to animals shall be fined not less than five thousand dollars nor more than twenty-five thousand dollars or imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not less than one year nor more than ten years, or both.

    (7) For purposes of this Subsection, where more than one animal is tortured, maimed, mutilated, or maliciously killed1 or where more than one head of livestock is tampered with, each act comprises a separate offense.

    C. This Section shall not apply to any of the following:

    (1) The lawful hunting or trapping of wildlife as provided by law.

    (2) Herding of domestic animals.

    (3) Accepted veterinary practices.

    (4) Activities carried on for scientific or medical research governed by accepted standards.

    (5) Traditional rural Mardi Gras parades, processions, or runs involving chickens.

    (6) Nothing in this Section shall prohibit the standard transportation and agricultural processing of agriculture products as defined in R.S. 3:3602(5) and (6).

    D. Repealed by Acts 2007, No. 425, §2, eff. August 15, 2008.

    Added by Acts 1982, No. 431, §1. Acts 1983, 1st Ex. Sess., No. 6, §1; Acts 1987, No. 336, §1; Acts 1995, No. 1165, §1; Acts 1995, No. 1246, §1, eff. June 29, 1995; Acts 1997, No. 461, §2; Acts 1997, No. 1212, §1; Acts 2006, No. 228, §1; Acts 2007, No. 425, §§1 and 2, eff. Aug. 15, 2008; Acts 2009, No. 106, §1; Acts 2009, No. 179, §1.

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    rtr_rtr

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    They have changed something in it, it's definitely not sweet. I'm a mechanic and I've ended up tasting antifreeze, oil, transmission fluid all of it, None of taste good. Usually ends up on my arm and in my mouth when wipe off sweat or splatters when it drains. But I bring my dog to the shop all the time. I was hesitant at first but he smells it and moves on.

    They probably added a bitterant to it, just like they do for canned air
     

    MOTOR51

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    Either way, poisoning them is a ****ed up thing to do and it shouldn't be advocated here, same applies to shooting them, feeding them broken glass, etc.

    Exactly. I guess that makes some people feel better about themselves. I would delete their silly posts.


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    spec50trout

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    Relieved to see the mods and others on top of some of these suggestions. This isn't the first time I've seen such things mentioned here. If meant in jest, IMO, it should be made very clear.
     
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