Shooting a deer with a silenced weapon?

[Abh3vol.firemen]

if mag capacity doesnt matter i guess i could use my yugo sks left stock.unless hunting with a grenade launcher and bayonet,in case the deer jumps back to life,are ilegal

 

[scottjajr]

The only time mag capacity is an issue is if you'r hunting on a WMA on private land there is none.

 

[JWG223]

The only time mag capacity is an issue is if you'r hunting on a WMA on private land there is none.

What is the rule for LA WMA?

 

[JWG223]

You may need the Beta-C more than you think. I let my 12 year old daughter use my AR last season to kill her first deer. She is a very good shot and I was confident she would make a good hit in the vitals. The deer ran about 40' after the first shot and she dropped him with the second. The problem is there was absolutely no blood trail. The deer was going to die from the first shot, but how far would it have ran if she missed with the second? I doubt we would have found it without a blood trail. Be sure of your first shot and then keep shooting till it drops. This year she will use my 30-30. She has overcome her fear of its recoil.

Ammunition?

 

[Tim67]

Afaik shotguns are 2+1 regardless of what you are hunting.

Correct. Except for a couple of federally sanctioned goose massacres (emergency flock reduction hunts) where all restrictions were temporarily lifted.

 

[spanky]

The only time mag capacity is an issue is if you'r hunting on a WMA on private land there is none.

Cite?

 

[Paintball]

Ammunition?

60gr. Soft Point Vital-Shok. The round mushroomed jacket recovered in chest and lead core exited other side. Exit wound was under 1/4" and plugged with tissue. Internal bleeding was substantial. Other round passed through frag nasty with several smaller holes. The whole kill took less than a minute from the first shot till the deer stopped breathing. Pictures in this older post: http://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/showthread.php?62506-Question-about-hunting-in-Louisiana-wih-AR15

 

[JWG223]

60gr. Soft Point Vital-Shok. The round mushroomed jacket recovered in chest and lead core exited other side. Exit wound was under 1/4" and plugged with tissue. Internal bleeding was substantial. Other round passed through frag nasty with several smaller holes. The whole kill took less than a minute from the first shot till the deer stopped breathing. Pictures in this older post: http://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/showthread.php?62506-Question-about-hunting-in-Louisiana-wih-AR15

You used a good bullet, not very inspiring
I wonder if the TSX will do better. I feel it well might. It would certainly hold together better I think.

 

[dzelenka]

60gr. Soft Point Vital-Shok. The. Exit wound was under 1/4" and plugged with tissue. Internal bleeding was substantial. Other round passed through frag nasty with several smaller holes. The whole kill took less than a minute from the first shot till the deer stopped breathing. Pictures in this older post: http://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/showthread.php?62506-Question-about-hunting-in-Louisiana-wih-AR15

I noticed that the Vital Shok is loaded with the 60 gr Nosler partition. Can you hetter describe what was recovered when you say "round mushroomed jacket recovered in chest and lead core exited other side"? Typically partitions will shed their front core, but I don't see how they shed the rear core. I am interested because I just picked up some of these bullets to test.

 

[Paintball]

I noticed that the Vital Shok is loaded with the 60 gr Nosler partition. Can you hetter describe what was recovered when you say "round mushroomed jacket recovered in chest and lead core exited other side"? Typically partitions will shed their front core, but I don't see how they shed the rear core. I am interested because I just picked up some of these bullets to test.

Correct front of jacket was empty and back was still intact on first round.

I'll post a picture of the recovered round later.

 

[Paintball]

You used a good bullet, not very inspiring
I wonder if the TSX will do better. I feel it well might. It would certainly hold together better I think.

I don't know if the TSX will do better or not JWG223. My .02 is to make sure, the deer is close, you will hit the heart (or brain) and still have a chance for a few follow up shots. The .223 doesn't make a large enough exit wound or at least it did not on that deer. Best of luck to you.

 

[Paintball]

I noticed that the Vital Shok is loaded with the 60 gr Nosler partition. Can you hetter describe what was recovered when you say "round mushroomed jacket recovered in chest and lead core exited other side"? Typically partitions will shed their front core, but I don't see how they shed the rear core. I am interested because I just picked up some of these bullets to test.

Sorry for not posting sooner..busy weekend. Here are pictures of the recovered bullet:

 

[themcfarland]

wow, I am going to try those.. looks impressive for 223

 

[deafdave3]

60gr. Soft Point Vital-Shok. The round mushroomed jacket recovered in chest and lead core exited other side. Exit wound was under 1/4" and plugged with tissue. Internal bleeding was substantial. Other round passed through frag nasty with several smaller holes. The whole kill took less than a minute from the first shot till the deer stopped breathing. Pictures in this older post: http://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/showthread.php?62506-Question-about-hunting-in-Louisiana-wih-AR15

Just to be sure I understand this correctly... the deer was shot twice with a .223 and both rounds went thru-and-thru, correct?

 

[Paintball]

Just to be sure I understand this correctly... the deer was shot twice with a .223 and both rounds went thru-and-thru, correct?

First round (the one pictured above) front lead core only exited leaving small exit wound less than the bullets diameter. This round hit above the heart (just missing it) and caused a lot of internal damage. The heart was intact, but an artery was cut. The above round was recovered in the lung on exiting side. The deer jumped turned and ran. The second round hit the back going under the spine and cutting the liver. The deer fell from this shot. The round passed through and thinking back it may not have fragged like I originally thought. It could have nicked a rib on the way in sending out bone fragments. I say this because there was a 1/4" hole and a few smaller ones around it, and the round did not go through as much tissue to open up due to the angle of the shot.

Regardless it's up to you as a hunter to choose what round you want to use. I personally would rather a round that will leave a nasty exit wound that allows massive blood loss.

 

[Paintball]

wow, I am going to try those.. looks impressive for 223

It did do a lot of internal damage. Just wish that it would have exited like that.

 

[lsu fan]

I'm pretty sure it's one in the chamber and 4 in the tube.

I'm sure they would have no issues if you brought an AA12 and a 25rd drum along, though.

From "Methods of taking Quadrapeds and Resident Game Birds":

Shotguns larger than a 10 gauge
or capable of holding more than three
shells shall be prohibited. Plugs used
in shotguns must be incapable of
being removed without disassembly.