The answer to gun control in 2 steps.

[Gator 45/70]

I think all assault carrots should be registered

If you have a frozen assault carrots in your freezer then it should be registered as a Class 4....

Any Questions?

 

[323MAR]

Everyone here seems to read something that is not there. As per the original post it is about gun C-O-N-T-R-O-L-. Is there anyone on this forum that believes that there is no need for gun control? That anyone could walk into any store and just walk out with a firearm without any checks or pick up any magazine and order a machine gun and have it delivered to his apartment in a few days with no questions asked? Anyone could get any thing they may want without any oversite? It would be a terrible thing. Much worse than it is now.

The US prison population was over 2,220,300 in 2013 with over 4,751,400 on probation or parole. That is only 7 million people out of 350 million of the US population. The majority of the offenders are not violent. Only about 7% of these offenders are violent. There are over 100 million gun owners in the US. If even 10% of them were violent criminals, then we would not have enough jail space as that would be five times the prison population.
You need to be better informed about criminal justice. You appear to be watching too much news. You do not appear to be very well informed about anything but rare gun violence. Knowledge of gun violence does not constitute any level of expert knowledge on guns.

 

[pulpsmack]

Post one is dramatically flawed for aforementioned reasons: the only effective gun control is FULL BLOWN totalitarianism (warrantless searches, and carrot/stick methods to get neighbors to spy on each-other), which as badly as we are sliding off the beam, is not remotely likely in our lifetimes.

Post two is utterly flawed in that assuming that Colt, Ruger, S&W, etc. are bought out, the supply will vacuum will shift to backup manufacturers (Larue, etc.) and gunsmiths become backup manufacturers, while people scramble to organize SOT permission. The government MAY be capable of buying out the existing firms but it cannot buy out the demand (pay off every person hell bent to build weapons as the next LaRue/LMT to take the place of the bought-out firms). Now you can postulate that the government can buy out the existing and delay/deny future licensee applications, however THIS would be a direct infringement on 2A as well as privileges/immunities and would not withstand court scrutiny.

The only way the US is going to reverse momentum of the Second Amendment is for the PEOPLE to demand it. Reversing momentum will NOT eliminate guns due to the current supply and the static demand for criminal enterprises.

 

[Blue Diamond]

Pulpsmack you are very smart. I made the original post but I think u may be wrong on the first part but right on on the second part. I don't think it will work either. TOO many suppliers. Last count I had was app. 2200 builders or about. But if the insurers get tired of paying out hundreds of claims monthly and drop coverage for builders it could be the end because all the major builders that I looked up have lost millions yearly and couldn't possibly self insure. Your thoughts?

 

[Win1917]

Perfect. Sounds like you can stop advocating dictatorship powers for the executive branch now as the solution to the problem. And it didn't even take complete subversion of congress and the constitution to do it.

 

[whitsend]

Pulpsmack you are very smart. I made the original post but I think u may be wrong on the first part but right on on the second part. I don't think it will work either. TOO many suppliers. Last count I had was app. 2200 builders or about. But if the insurers get tired of paying out hundreds of claims monthly and drop coverage for builders it could be the end because all the major builders that I looked up have lost millions yearly and couldn't possibly self insure. Your thoughts?

Show me the list of major builders who have lost millions yearly.
Show me the hundreds of claims monthly against firearms manufactures.

If this were the case, they would already be out of business.

 

[oleheat]

I don't know, it sounds simple enough....

 

[Request Dust Off]

Pulpsmack you are very smart. I made the original post but I think u may be wrong on the first part but right on on the second part. I don't think it will work either. TOO many suppliers. Last count I had was app. 2200 builders or about. But if the insurers get tired of paying out hundreds of claims monthly and drop coverage for builders it could be the end because all the major builders that I looked up have lost millions yearly and couldn't possibly self insure. Your thoughts?

So essentially you are on here to have us tell you how to successfully implement gun control, but you aren't anti gun.

I have some thoughts on what terrorist could do better but I am not going to tell them either.

 

[Blue Diamond]

I could get all that info together for all of u but who is going to read it and explain it to u. How about I take all of u to McD's and get u a Happy Meal and we call it even.

 

[323MAR]

I could get all that info together for all of u but who is going to read it and explain it to u. How about I take all of u to McD's and get u a Happy Meal and we call it even.

Deal! You pick the location, but I will settle for 2 sausage biscuits and a large fry. I think the fries go great with the sausage biscuit.

 

[Hattrick 22]

Whew never read anything on here that actually made me flinch from trying to comprehend it...

 

[whitsend]

I could get all that info together for all of u but who is going to read it and explain it to u. How about I take all of u to McD's and get u a Happy Meal and we call it even.

That would be a bit of a drive for you, so how about just the info.
My research shows souring profits for gun manufacturers, not million dollar losses.

EDIT:
I think I have reading comprehension down.

 

[general mills]

I could get all that info together for all of u but who is going to read it and explain it to u. How about I take all of u to McD's and get u a Happy Meal and we call it even.

Thanks, that sounds good, but I'm shying away from McDonalds do to the lack of nutrition in their menu. I'm thinking perhaps the government should buy them out and just shut them down. You know, obesity control.

 

[Vermiform]

Thanks, that sounds good, but I'm shying away from McDonalds do to the lack of nutrition in their menu. I'm thinking perhaps the government should buy them out and just shut them down. You know, obesity control.

The government would have to buy all of the fast food chains and shut them down, which is actually feasible since they are near bankruptcy and hemorrhaging money, or so I read on the internet somewhere......

 

[Saintsfan6]

Want more gun control? I got two steps for you!

1) Pack your things!

2) Take a one way flight to France!

Your welcome!

 

[DAVE_M]

Want more gun control? I got two steps for you!

1) Pack your things!

2) Take a one way flight to France!

Your welcome!

Seriously, I don't know if the OP is trolling or just dumb.

 

[pulpsmack]

Pulpsmack you are very smart. I made the original post but I think u may be wrong on the first part but right on on the second part. I don't think it will work either. TOO many suppliers. Last count I had was app. 2200 builders or about. But if the insurers get tired of paying out hundreds of claims monthly and drop coverage for builders it could be the end because all the major builders that I looked up have lost millions yearly and couldn't possibly self insure. Your thoughts?

Assuming your liability assessment holds water (which I do not agree that it would), Insurance has little or nothing to do with the equation. Firearms manufacturers (including Bubba Turnwrench) can organize under one or multiple LLCs. If someone tries to sue "BubbaGuns" and prevails at litigation or settlement, the only thing at stake is the LLC and its assets assuming Bubba doesn't co-mingle assets or other infractions that could make him personally liable. So the small "micro-garage" LLC Bubbaguns is out of business whereas Turnwrench industries, a second and separate LLC is open for business while Bubba organizes a new LLC as BT Enterprises.

Demand will remain static or even increase with the hit in a major supply. That demand will be filled by small operations that are too small for most personal injury attorneys to risk their own time and money to litigate. It is one thing to stake $10,000 in billable hours and $5,000 for court costs, and some "expert" when you are alleging a wrongful death suit against Cerberus and Jim's Firearms, as repugnant and frivolous as such a strategy is, there is at least a possibility that a settlement for more than the firm has invested can be recouped. However, who would invest $15,000 or even $5,000 on such a suit against a Mom & Pop manufacturer who would just as soon liquidate assets of that company for legal defense and/or file for bankruptcy? Mind you, all this is going on while the other individual's LLC or LLCs are still running free and clear. Other than the Brady Lunatics, who wants to put their neck on the chopping block for a (misguided) principle?

The problem with gun, drug, fill-in-the-blank control arguments is that one cannot assume away demand. Where there is demand, the most clever will enter the market, particularly for legal enterprises. As always with this/these latest generations, the myopia begins and ends with the instrumentality... blame X for the act not the actor. If you want effective gun control you want to control the people, not the guns. That goes back to either the carrot, and or the stick. The carrot is to somehow convince the population that right or wrong, guns are some terrible ill that should be shunned or avoided (and those campaigns run rampant in media and politics). The stick is to make people's lives so miserable that they choose abstinence rather than acquisition. The drug trade, piracy, child porn etc. all show that no matter how much leverage is worked in a (quasi-) free society, it won't solve the problem. The more leverage is exacted, the more mild individuals may shy away from the inconvenience, but the worst of the worst (the very reason for having the "control" discussions in the first place) will remain largely unshaken, especially if a new illicit market springs forth. House to house searches where your mother goes off to a death camp for having your stash in her attic (unbeknownst to her)... you'll get results. Our society does not work that way (thankfully so) and if it did, those "abundant firearms on the streets" should be used to remove whatever tyrant would impose such a way of life upon us.

 

[GunRelated]

This thread is lacking the comedy it deserves. :/

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[Request Dust Off]

Seriously, I don't know if the OP is trolling or just dumb.

He is either serious or trying to mock people who fear gun control. He did try to sell some guns on here, so I guess not selling guns should also kick in after he gets his sold.

 

[Emperor]

This thread is lacking the comedy it deserves. :/

There isn't much to work with! Though, offering posters McDonalds because they may be too stupid to understand things is pretty funny!