Little Falls Home Defense incident ...more than meets the eye?

[general mills]

His mistake was not using 12g, no.1 buck. No coup de grace necessary.

I thought the common theory was 10mm, there wouldn't have been a body left to see, just a fine pink mist.

 

[general mills]

He heard the glass break
Grabs guns, turns on recorder on book shelf.
Heads to basement to hide out.

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I think under Louisiana law, the last thing I would want in a home defense shooting would be a recording. our laws are very homeowner friendly. ("They broke in, and I was scared they would kill me. period."). I would think a recording would just give an attorney something to pick apart.

 

[Hitman]

He heard the glass break
Grabs guns, turns on recorder on book shelf.
Heads to basement to hide out.

I think under Louisiana law, the last thing I would want in a home defense shooting would be a recording. our laws are very homeowner friendly. ("They broke in, and I was scared they would kill me. period."). I would think a recording would just give an attorney something to pick apart.

Of course. Hence the whole "Shut your mouth, ask for a lawyer advice"

I HATE that LEO's sometimes give citizens a hard time about this
like it's taken personal or something.
In the end, it sure seems always in your best interest when involved in situations like this
to simply shut your mouth, and ask for a lawyer(AS NICE AS POSSIBLE) not just,
'I know my rights! am I being DETAINED!?'

 

[Emperor]

Of course. Hence the whole "Shut your mouth, ask for a lawyer advice"

I HATE that LEO's sometimes give citizens a hard time about this
like it's taken personal or something.
In the end, it sure seems always in your best interest when involved in situations like this
to simply shut your mouth, and ask for a lawyer(AS NICE AS POSSIBLE) not just,
'I know my rights! am I being DETAINED!?'

Or the old, "F you pig!"

That's not as effective either.

 

[Emperor]

Sorry coppers! I know you are just trying to do your jobs, but the best legal advice after an incident involving a shooting is:

"Don't Talk To The Police!"

 

[Leonidas]

Or the old, "F you pig!"

That's not as effective either.

Unless your goal is a tasing and a new motorbike.

 

[Magdump]

His mistake was not using 12g, no.1 buck. No coup de grace necessary.

Absolutely!

And to all the fools doing the B&E: play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Anybody who breaks into someone's home must, has to, obviously expects that anyone living in said home will defend themselves and their family to whatever end. The fact that they know this tells me they are prepared to get in and out by any means necessary. No misunderstanding here. No crying "no harm, no foul". The jig is up.

 

[1911arkain]

I'm always waiting in my home to kill someone. Anyone who comes in uninvited will be shot and killed. Never know what the person shot will try and do to you to get away, or what drugs they are on.

 

[drpc]

Went to an Enhanced Carry class in Mississippi yesterday and another case come up. Bottom line is stop shooting when the 'threat" is no longer present.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/oklahom...found-guilty-of-murder-in-killing-of-suspect/

 

[JBP55]

Went to an Enhanced Carry class in Mississippi yesterday and another case come up. Bottom line is stop shooting when the 'threat" is no longer present.

That is taught in the basic CHP class in Louisiana.

 

[oleheat]

Of course. Hence the whole "Shut your mouth, ask for a lawyer advice"

I HATE that LEO's sometimes give citizens a hard time about this
like it's taken personal or something.
In the end, it sure seems always in your best interest when involved in situations like this
to simply shut your mouth, and ask for a lawyer(AS NICE AS POSSIBLE) not just,
'I know my rights! am I being DETAINED!?'

Anyone who doubts this should look up the Bernard Goetz case.
While being questioned with no atty present, Goetz claimed he did things that witnesses testified NEVER ACTUALLY HAPPENED (like telling one of the attackers 'you don't look so good- here's another', before shooting him) - and it came back to haunt him in the civil trial.

 

[Vermiform]

I'm always waiting in my home to kill someone. Anyone who comes in uninvited will be shot and killed. Never know what the person shot will try and do to you to get away, or what drugs they are on.

....and the Jury may one day refer to this post as Exhibit A.

Careful what ya post fellas....I'm guilty of it as much as anyone here though.

 

[Leonidas]

They'll never take me alive. Nyahahahaha.

 

[Defender]

As someone who has spent the last 25 years in criminal courts, I am amaised how often a person, with the best intentions, will incriminate themselves by trying to explain their actions to the police. When they tell you "anything you say will be used against you", IT WILL, PEROID! Always best to not make any statements until you consult with an attorney.

 

[madwabbit]

As someone who has spent the last 25 years in criminal courts, I am amaised how often a person, with the best intentions, will incriminate themselves by trying to explain their actions to the police. When they tell you "anything you say will be used against you", IT WILL, PEROID! Always best to not make any statements until you consult with an attorney.

cant stress this enough.

half the time im like "do you understand the rights I just read?"

"yeeah yeah. WHAT HAD HAPPENED WAS...."

im thinkin "dude shut upppp"

 

[JWG223]

cant stress this enough.

half the time im like "do you understand the rights I just read?"

"yeeah yeah. WHAT HAD HAPPENED WAS...."

im thinkin "dude shut upppp"

So...tell us...how many times has someone you were going to arrest convinced you with eloquent words that you don't need to and you let them go on their way? Yeah...I bet I know the number. Lol!

 

[madwabbit]

So...tell us...how many times has someone you were going to arrest convinced you with eloquent words that you don't need to and you let them go on their way? Yeah...I bet I know the number. Lol!

lmao fantastic point of the week goes to JWG

 

[xobelkcat]

His mistake was not using 12g, no.1 buck. No coup de grace necessary.

Went to an Enhanced Carry class in Mississippi yesterday and another case come up. Bottom line is stop shooting when the 'threat" is no longer present.

That is taught in the basic CHP class in Louisiana.

Did everyone here see the footage of the off-duty police officer held at gun point while pumping gas?
The attacker was shot in the head and after dropping to the ground and laying pretty still for a little while, then lifted himself slightly with one arm and started to reach for his gun. Luckily the officer had the presence of mind to go kick the gun away from him.

That being said, just because an intruder has been shot and down, doesn't always mean they are no longer a threat.

 

[madwabbit]

Did everyone here see the footage of the off-duty police officer held at gun point while pumping gas?
The attacker was shot in the head and after dropping to the ground and laying pretty still for a little while, then lifted himself slightly with one arm and started to reach for his gun. Luckily the officer had the presence of mind to go kick the gun away from him.

That being said, just because an intruder has been shot and down, doesn't always mean they are no longer a threat.

no doubt. but firing under their chin close enough to leave powder burns is an execution, no if's and's or buts about it. firing through her palm into her skull is physical proof that she was taking a defensive position. no matter how you hash it, its murder.

If you break into someones home, I think you are at the mercy of the homeowner and may very well get whats coming to you. Morality and Legality are two separate entities.

 

[Hitman]

firing through her palm into her skull is physical proof that she was taking a defensive position. no matter how you hash it, its murder.

When you hear gun shots and you throw up your hands,
you may very well get shot through the hand.

That doesn't mean the shooter just murdered you.......