*Update* (Didn't ) loose my job because of my remarks about Al Sharpton

[Leadfoot]

If the radios aren't recorded, I personally would be inclined to clam up, deny everything and make them prove it was me.

 

[Vigilante Sniper]

As far as Im concerned......I wouldnt go down with a fight.They "heard" someone on the radio.....perhaps its wasnt you?Perhaps it was bleed over from ham radio or cb?Perhaps "they" have all conjured up a story and sticking together to get you dismissed because they or someone they know want your position??Perhaps they are the predjudice ones?Sounds to me like "hear say" and someone starting rumours!.......if it wasnt witnessed or video or voice recorded with analysis Id get a lawyer and sue the **** out of them.First thing I would do is IMMEDIATELY erase this thread and play dumb.Just my opinion

I'm not concerned with what I say in this thread, if the truth hurts someone then so be it. No matter the outcome, I have learned a valuable lesson.

 

[Masonmedic]

If the radios aren't recorded, I personally would be inclined to clam up, deny everything and make them prove it was me.

Yep....they have to prove it was you.You dont have to prove that it wasnt you.That defeats the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thingy.And btw,good luck and I commend you for saying you wouldnt deny what you said.And truly,you done NO wrong.Its a sticky situation when someones livelihood is involved.Ride it out..keep DAMN good track of everything.And do what feels best.

 

[Yrdawg]

Why? Because apparently you don't get out into the world much and know how these things play out when you have a situation like this arise and you have "offended" minorities on the warpath over it.

Do I personally think what he said was bad/wrong? No. But I'm pretty sure he was just making a comment, not an actual threat.

Do I think it was a bonehead thing to say, when it could be overheard by mixed company who is possibly looking for a reason to stab someone in the back? Absolutely.

I learned a long time ago to NEVER say ANYTHING at work about ANY subject that could come back and bite me in the ass. This is a prime example. In ANY workplace, there are always those people who are troublemakers and will use something like this to their advantage or to hurt you if they can.

Well, I have been in the real world, not as much as you I'm sure...but still it's sad to me when people can just say " this is what we the people have become and get used to it "

Me, I'd really rather try to reverse process. Rides have bumps

 

[Mojo Rider]

The point i was trying to make is that every hard working tax paying patriotic american black or white agrees that people like Sharpton are a large part of the problem and not a solution. So the powers that be who will decide your fate will undoubtedly fall into that catagory and will be less likely to consider your statement racist when you provide them with an explanation. Those that complained about your comment probably don't know you personally and were looking for attention or a possible lawsuit for profit. That'd be my angle if i was defending your case.

and please don't go down without a fight or enroll in tolerence classes. It's time we stop feeling guilty for the past actions of others and concern ourselves with the only true reality in life...the present moment.

 

[Leadfoot]

Well, I have been in the real world, not as much as you I'm sure...but still it's sad to me when people can just say " this is what we the people have become and get used to it "

I think you just get shits and giggles out of finding everywhere I post something and argue with it.

I never said I was happy with the way things are, but they are what they are. Not a whole lot I can do to change it, just do what I can to keep from getting caught up in something I don't want any part of.

 

[LongGoneDays]

Lose.

 

[jdessell]

Like others here have said, never discuss race, politics or religion with people outside of your immediate family. At work, over a microphone? Jeez, c'mon man... WTF di you expect? That being said, don't cave in to those politically correct pricks. If you do lose your job over it, lose your temper, let them have it, give them a piece of your mind and start throwing **** ! They can't tell your next employer the reason they let you go or any details about it. You get a free pass to give them a little "wall-to-wall therapy."

 

[Yrdawg]

I think you just get shits and giggles out of finding everywhere I post something and argue with it.

I never said I was happy with the way things are, but they are what they are. Not a whole lot I can do to change it, just do what I can to keep from getting caught up in something I don't want any part of.

I'm just always pushin to make everything better all the time...everywhere.

 

[Gus McCrae]

Lets take politics and race out of the whole equation:

You said you would murder someone.

Why would and employer want to keep you around? It's not good for them in any way. Spouting off got you in trouble. You should probably learn from that instead of denying it.

 

[tim9lives]

Well.....I was just thinking about Bill Clinton's response during his deposition.

He brilliantly said....."It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the--if he--if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement....Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are you having any kind of sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true."

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[Jman1911]

Don't sweat it "D" People's feelings get hurt all the dam time......some People just need to get over it!

In the mean time move your radio! Lol

 

[JLouv]

Lets take politics and race out of the whole equation:

You said you would murder someone.

Why would and employer want to keep you around? It's not good for them in any way. Spouting off got you in trouble. You should probably learn from that instead of denying it.

If you remove politics (and race too given the fact some of you keep insisting VS is racist), the this whole situation would never have happened. Your argument is invalid. Try again.

 

[I.B. Pimpin]

Last night at work we were talking about the Treyvon Martin shooting and got on a discussion about Al Sharpton in the news. I commented how I'd like to call him and tell him to come march here in my parish, and I'd make him a Martyre. Well I happened to be sitting on my mike and some black operators heard me and called my boss and filed a complaint. Got a call a while ago at the gun show from my boss telling me they are putting me on administrative leave pending an investigation. My new boss is also black, what are my chances. Does my personal feelings about Sharpton constitute that I should be fired? In 30 years in this industry, I have never been in trouble so now I'm worried that with all the racial tension, that I could loose my job over my freedom of speech. But in the corporate world nowadays a white man doesn't stand a chance when it come to racial division.

 

[stormrider54]

This is very, very true. Loose lips sink ships.

 

[Azimuth]

Are you're union dues current?

 

[BIGGREEN]

It sounds to me from his post that he said he wants to invite al sharpton to his parish and "make him a Martyre" (sic).

I am not 100% on what a Martyre is, but it sounds to me as if he said he wants not only to kill Al, but to kill him for what he believes in.

Now maybe I'm wrong, Mr. Vigilante Sniper is a bartender and a "Martyre" is a cool alcoholic beverage, and he wants to make Al a refreshing drink.

Other than that is sounds pretty racist. He might not be a racist, but to a reasonably thinking person that is how it easily comes across.
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Just reading the OP I think this may be the problem. Uncle Al is by-far the most racist person I have ever publicly heard but I'm white so my thoughts don't count. Good luck, but I think the outcome will not be good. Sorry

 

[I.B. Pimpin]

It sounds to me from his post that he said he wants to invite al sharpton to his parish and "make him a Martyre" (sic).

I am not 100% on what a Martyre is, but it sounds to me as if he said he wants not only to kill Al, but to kill him for what he believes in.

Now maybe I'm wrong, Mr. Vigilante Sniper is a bartender and a "Martyre" is a cool alcoholic beverage, and he wants to make Al a refreshing drink.

Other than that is sounds pretty racist. He might not be a racist, but to a reasonably thinking person that is how it easily comes across.
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Just reading the OP I think this may be the problem. Uncle Al is by-far the most racist person I have ever publicly heard but I'm white so my thoughts don't count. Good luck, but I think the outcome will not be good. Sorry

You're right. He should prepare to be fricked.

 

[Gus McCrae]

If you remove politics (and race too given the fact some of you keep insisting VS is racist), the this whole situation would never have happened. Your argument is invalid. Try again.

No it isn't. Go to work and say you would kill someone (unless you work for yourself). See what happens. Did race and politics motivate a certain group of people to report it? Sure. With or without politics, it's not right to say such a thing.

 

[S&W4ME]

Yep....they have to prove it was you.You dont have to prove that it wasnt you.That defeats the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thingy.And btw,good luck and I commend you for saying you wouldnt deny what you said.And truly,you done NO wrong.Its a sticky situation when someones livelihood is involved.Ride it out..keep DAMN good track of everything.And do what feels best.

This would be true in a court of law but not in the workplace in a right to work state. They don't have to prove anything they can terminate without cause.

Am I correct that your union? If that was the case I would call my union rep first thing Monday morning. Now if the union rep is black well then your pretty much screwed

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