Well, I originally registered on this board to give Skiney the OP my point of view on the Five-seveN as I actually own the gun and have quite a bit of knowledge and experience shooting it. I think I served my purpose here and probably some would agree went beyond my purpose. I thank those of you...
Boy, I sure hope I didn't say that. I did a lot of typing today and could have made an honest mistake. I do remember specifically saying that there are plenty of options for a self-defensive pistol and the Five-seveN is just one of many options. I also said that the Five-seveN is the easiest...
I fixed the broken link in the original post but thought I should repost the link here so those that want to read through it can do so easily. The test video on page 22 is the most complete and unbiased and up-to-date 5.7x28mm test available. It was attended and performed by 5.7 enthusiasts as...
I can find you tons of fairly recent pictures of USSS carrying P90s but I don't really want to at this point. I think I've provided enough data for those who are interested in the platform to read all they need to.
I fixed the link to the thread that has unbiased tests on the 5.7 that I think...
Sin-ster, I just noticed you were from NOLA. I LOVE that town and take a vacation there whenever I can. Frenchman St. is where you will find me! :rockon: You can't be that bad if you're from the Big EZ.
People pick up used Five-seveN's from time to time for 700.00. You just have to keep your eyes out. I know someone that has put 10's of thousands of rounds through many Five-seveN's and most of those rounds were max pressure or more. The gun is tough so don't worry about it being worn out if...
I lied, I'm typing more... *sigh*
The recoil on the Five-seveN is about 60-70% of a standard 9mm load. You can reload Five-seveN target ammo for around 7.00 per box of 50. BUT, you must do your homework first because reloading for the Five-seveN requires more accuracy than other commonly...
And hopefully my final post on this issue will be concerning a recent study detailing what calibers actually do kill people the fastest. Can you guess what the answer is? :naughty:
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/7866
All they have to do is go rent one and they will be hooked! The ability to place fact accurate shots in the "kill zone" should be enough to convince them. A wise person will know that caliber wars are for mall ninjas. If they want ballistics there are tons of videos available comparing the...
You are very angry sir. :wavey:
This post you are attacking was copied from another forum.
No other gun was used in the Fort Hood incident except for the Five-seveN. Hasan was found to be carrying an unfired revolver (as a backup I presume)?
I want to leave the good folks that are enjoying the informational side of this thread with one of the best put-together ballistics tests of the 5.7x28mm platform to date. Modern ammo is used, standardized protocols are carefully followed, and the test was attended by 5.7 haters as well as 5.7...
There is a real productive point to these highly charged 5.7 threads that pop up from time to time across the web. Lots of information gets passed around and in the end a couple more people join the 5.7 club. It happens every time. There will always be the trolls and the ardent 5.7 haters, but...
Don't you just love people that make comments like "it's not worth the effort", or "I don't have the time", and then go on to write a 1,000 word manifesto/rant? :rofl:
I only have one thing to say in response to your formidable effort in obfuscating the real point of the thread...
Cool...
Wow! Talk about seeing something how you want to see it...
Using a major tragedy like the Fort Hood incident to prove or disprove a weapon platform is poor taste. But since you brought it up...
The following quotes are survivor's testimony in Hasan's article 32 hearing. They are...
What!? What!?
Aren't these your words?
Now you are making comments about this arbitrary term you call power? You weren't about to say "stopping power" I pray... :doh:
The round I carry is 28gr and rated at 2,600 fps and 405ft-lbs of energy. My gun recoils less than a Glock 17 shooting...
Ummm... okay. So was it .61 then? :rofl: Nice attempt at saving face though. Unfortunately for you, most of the readers of this thread will understand the main point of the video, and that is that the Five-seveN is blazingly fast. The shooter in that video is a stone-cold amateur. I have watched...
Now you're starting to get it. But even if it does expand, the permanent wound channel observed in autopsy is indistinguishable from an unexpanded hollowpoint. The bottom line is this, when dealing with pistol calibers, shot placement is key. As long as you can reach the vital organs which are...
If your Googling is landing you in a few select forums run by a few select, biased cult leaders. I could drag Leos and military-types in here in five seconds that would disagree with whatever you have been reading over at Factfighter.net.
I have never seen a person at the range or read about...